One last thing…
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- August
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I didn’t want to have to write this on a day filled with actual Jets news, but this is the last post I’ll be writing for Jets Journal.
I’ve decided to leave The Journal News and today is my last day.
As a lot of you can probably tell, I have loved every minute covering this football team. From Chad Pennington, through Brett Favre and Mark Sanchez, Eric Mangini and Rex Ryan it’s been a blast.
I will admit I was a little nervous about writing a blog. They demand constant feeding and attention, and frankly there are not a lot of women blogging pro sports. I wasn’t sure if I’d spend a lot of days deleting profanities.
That didn’t happen.
I have really enjoyed reading your comments and insight about the team, and more than once followed up with a coach or player to see if there was more to it. I can’t tell you how much I will miss the give and take with you.
Thanks for making this worth the nights and weekends, the 1 a.m. phone call with Mike Tannenbaum to announce Favre’s arrival. I’d do it all over again in a heartbeat.
I hope to be covering sports again and soon. In the meantime, you can follow me at twitter.com/janesports and I’ll be starting up a roller derby blog. That’s me in a black mouthguard, sneering at Rita Wayward. You can find info on my league, Suburbia Roller Derby, at suburbiarollerderby.com.
Hopefully though, there will be another pro sports blog in my future that I can stock with audio and video clips.
When that happens, I hope I’ll see you there.
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Wow, I hope this is a positive move for you, Jane. Whoever takes over here will have big shoes to fill. I hope we have the good fortune of finding you on a future Jets blog somewhere else. In the meantime, maybe you’ll make a roller derby fan out of me. Everyone loves girls on skates.
Cheers and all the best to ya!
Thanks for all the time you’ve put in. There are a good many of us, I;m sure, who are very grateful. Good luck rollergirl!
I’m sorry to see you go and you will be missed. You did a great job covering the Jets and Rangers. I would like to wish you luck on your next endeavor and know you will do well. Thank you.
It’s a sad day. I would like to thank all the people in your life that encouraged you to go into journalism. Your talent, your dedication and your insight will be sorely missed.
Thank you for being you
JetOrange
Another BLACK DAY for Lohud. Jane McManus, who did an outstanding job covering the NY J*E*T*S for us and Ernie Palladino, the Giants long time beat writer were let go. When they let Andrew Gross go I was very disappointed, especially when there was no replacement for quite a while. Jane finally stepped in and at first I wasn’t too thrilled. After all it was a female covering my NY J*E*T*S, But after just a few blogs I realized we had a person who really loved and put her entire soul into what she was doing. Jane & Ernie we will miss you both. Sorry to see you go but I am sure you both will land on your feet wherever that road may take you.
Lohud this is directed directly at you and whoever you send us as a replacement. These J*E*T bloggers and Jane were like a little internet family. We bled green as a family. She read our little blogs and answered our questions. I hope we don’t go through what we went through when Andrew was let go. Jane not only covered the J*E*T*S, she also covered the Rangers and HS softball. You seem to overload these reporters and than discard them. How many more outstanding reporters are you going to just kick out. Tony P. Joe Lombardie, Andrew Gross, Ernie Palladino and Jane were people who gave you their all and “Poof, just like that they are gone.
Nice one, Joe. Andrew Gross was also outstanding and this board did fall into a bit of a tailspin until Jane manned it up. I guess this board is kind of like the Jets…the players change, but the fans continue to rally around the jersey. Here’s hoping they keep it worthwhile for us.
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Joe Lombardi had the vision to leave very much on his own before the total collapse of the Journal News sports coverage he helped rise to excellence. I believe the others also left of there own volition (sp) including Jane.
Jane,
This hasn’t always been the most visited blog, but that does not reflect poorly on you. You are by the far the best blog host in the area and yes, our little family will miss you dearly. Please let us know where and when you catch on.
Joe Lombardi saw the writing on the wall.
Thanks for saying all those nice things! It’s true that Ernie and I opted to leave, and I am sorry but I don’t think the paper will cover this as a beat going forward. Perhaps someone will keep up the blog, however. You guys deserve a place here.
Jane I wish you the best and just maybe you will end up
reporting for the Vikings with our friend Favre…LOL
Best of Luck…...
I wonder if I should try to run this blog?With my knowledge
of football and my open mind on new players,I think it would be sure thing.With Ryan’s decision to go with Sanchez
I believe it will be a very long season for the Jets and
once again rival fans will be chanting SAME OLD JETS by week three….Maybe we should of persuaded” You know who”
to stay a little bit longer!!!!! I’M BACK….
Whoa Dan…
If you take over we’ll have to Paraphrase John Thompson, after he once defiled Manley field house, “Lohud Jets Blog is officially closed” (ha ha).
JetOrange seems to be a levelheaded wealth of information…perhaps Lohud should appoint him interim blog director.
David,
That’s not a bad idea! Up to it, JetOrange?
Just read that the Mets’ Oliver Perez is out for the season. Recently, I posted here that there must be some kind of talisman working against Clemens. Now I have to think that somewhere out there, probably in Philadelphia or Atlanta, somebody is sticking many pins into a tiny Mr. Met replica. There’s no other explanation!
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I was a hard sell. I loved Andy and you were a usurper. Silly me. You turned out to be great as well. Loved your sidebars. It’s a tough business. Good Luck.
Simply, Simon
This was mentioned on TJB a few months ago…..Us Jet fans are Joe Nameth and Jane McManus is our Suzy Kolber…
It has been a pleasure following you Jane. I was a little skeptical about a woman reporting on my Jets but you have done a great job. So much so that I ignored the other guys (who couldnt tweet as fast as you could) You will be missed by this fan….Big time.
Good Luck
Dear Jane,
We have really enjoyed your work in the paper and on this blog.
I only hope we can learn of your next effort so that we can follow along on your output.
Thanks for everything.
Good luck in whatever you decide to do.
Jane,
I don’t have anything new or interesting that hasn’t already been said. As the magnificent bastard that I am, the first thing I could only think of is how this sucks for me. I basically just found this blog and it’s like I’m just now walking into a movie and the credits are rolling.
So, although it may sound repetive please be well. Whatever it is you want in life I hope you obtain. Remember this time and all the people your work touched. Good luck setting up your roller derby blog (which kind of sounds like fun). I don’t think you’ll start up a pro sports blog again. However, if I’m flat out wrong and you do I hope I’m in the stands somewhere.
See you when I see you
-The ,
Alex and Dave
I’ve seen JetOrange at the Jets Insider message boards where the big dogs run. I think he’ll just go back there but its worth asking.
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Well, now that there is no reason for me to ever read the Journal News ever again, what am I going to do?
Jane, thank you for everything. You are the absolute best and we will obviously miss you. Best of luck to you!
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I guess it is off to Siberia for us J*E*T and giant fans. Apparently LoHud doesn’t care about us. This isn’t the first time we were in Limbo. But I think it may be the beginning of the end for blogging
You could be right, Joe. The newspaper industry is an industry in decline and I get the feeling that the Journal News probably doesn’t have the resources needed to swim with the bigger fish.
Alas, I think you guys are right. If so, I am really going to miss “yous,” as Archie Bunker would’ve put it. I’ve never had more fun as a Jets fan; that can be taken well or poorly! But, seriously, I find this site therapeutic. Misery loves company!
And when I drop in on other blogs and I see how disrespectful the participants generally are with each other, I value this site more than ever. Name-calling is rare, even when we disagree mightily with each other. This is the classiest site around. Sorry if it goes, really sorry.
Alex, you hit it right on the head. If you find a close facsimile to this place in the interim, please post the link and maybe we can move our little community into another remote corner of the Jet universe. I read from a lot of different places, but I don’t have the desire to dive in posting in a dumbed-down mainstream moshpit, either.
I still can’t believe this has happened. What am i going to do? Do I join the Post, News, or Bergen Record blogs? Please someone, send a good link. I’ll miss you guys.
What do you think, Eric? Pick the best one and maybe we can follow you through the door.
Here we are, hours away from our looked forward to match-up with our biggest rival and we have no coverage from LoHud. Or should I say NoHud. As a J*E*T fan I feel that NoHud has turned its back on us. I know the newspaper business is taking a terrible hit from the internet. However as a fan of football and especially the J*E*T*S I do not understand this move at this time. Two weeks before the start of the season. There hasn’t been a football article (J*E*T*S or giants) since Wednesday. Will we be seeing this blog just lay stagnant or will there be future post from your staff. Jane and Rick were outstanding journalist and I am sorry to see them leave. But what is in our future with your paper regarding the NY J*E*T*S.
Please someone update me blow by blow on this entry about tonight’s game. I’m in Florida on vacation and I’m heading to a movie…..Well, at least until the end of the 3rd qtr.
I wish I could be watching this game, but the only games in my area are Cardinals/Chargers (why???) and Bills/Steelers. I’m going to be following it on the CBS Game center.
I know Ill be talking to myself here, but oh my god is this team having an issue with penalties. One quarter down and they have 7 for 70 yards, They won’t be able to win many, if they rack them up at this pace. They’d better get it fixed…
Well, I couldn’t “see” it, but on the balance, I think the offense might be ahead of the defense, in terms of progress. The Jets D started like swiss cheese, but tightened up a bit in the second quarter. Sanchez had a solid half and seems to have a good thing going with Chansi Stuckey. Reason for cautious optimism on the offensive side of the ball…
Our secondary was looking AWFUL in the first quarter but solidified in the second. Our takeaways have been saving our butts. Shepherd is getting picked on mercilessly; much of the penalty yardage that David refers to is due to Shepherd. I’m starting to see why Philly let him go.
Sanchez started slowly again, but has really picked it up. Stuckey was great getting that TD into the end zone from about the 12, where he caught the ball. Sanchez’s throw, I must admit, Clemens could not have made, though Clemens has other strengths. Still Sanchez is only going to get better-a scary thought for the rest of the division/league.
David: I’m getting the game through Channel 3 from Syracuse; I think it has to do with the Jets’ popularity around here because of the Cortland connection.
It seems Jet Orange has left. Right?
Cheers to ya, Alex. Thanks for sharing the visuals. I think you must be right about Cortland helping with the broadcast. I was in Syracuse today for a pop warner game, but that’s another story…
I wondered if Shepard looked as bad as the game center made him appear. How is bust-boy Gholston looking? I noticed he contributed a penalty and 1 tackle, after a 17 yard gain.
It’s looking like Sanchez has flat outplayed Manning in this game….I know it’s only preseason, but that is really impressive for a green rookie.
Just in case you people at NoHud missed it. The J*E*T*S beat the giants tonight 27-25
Gholston actually had his first sack, but gave it up stupidly via a helmet-to-helmet hit on the QB. Dumb, just dumb.
Stuckey really impressed me with his tenacity on several plays, not just the TD dogfight (sorry M. Vick) into the end zone. That’s dogfight as in old WWI airplanes. He did a great job of preventing one pass from being intercepted. Sanchez owes him one.
Here’s an idea. Too much rum to say for sure it’s a good one. I hear that Yahoo hosts web groups; though we’d miss Jane, for sure, we could at least talk to each other rather than “disband” forever. Any tech-savvy guys out there who might enjoy moderating? It could be googled too, in case anyone else might want to join later on. Just an idea.
Glad Rex lost his virginity tonight!
Please, after tonight’s game. Let’s put all these Clowney stories away until he does something against starters. I guess we can just keep posting on this story until someone take over, if anybody ever does.
JetOrange, I posted this story last week when you mentioned about Fred Mautino and Mike Ditka. I collect sports memorabilia and one of my pieces was the actual game program, jetOrange, right now I am looking at page 37 of the November 5, 1960 official program of the Syracuse/Army game. Some of the names on that team were Art Baker, Ernie Davis, Fred Mautino & his brother Lou of Reading Pa. and a back name John Mackey who was a sophomore. Al Vanderbush (General) and Frank Gibson were the Army captains. The kicker was Frank, not Tom, Blanda. Syracuse had tri-captains, Al Bemiller, Fred Mautino and Dick Riemer. HOFer Walt Sweeney was on that team and the legend Ben Schwartzwalder was the coach…Alex I know Caster has 2 long TDs. I think the other one was a 10-15 yarder. He was over 200 yards on about 5or 6 catches. He was a high school football coach at Rye Country Day school for a while down here in Westchester. That is just outside of Port Chester and Rye. Jerome Barker may have had the other long TDpass.
Did Clowney even get thrown to? I’m happy Gholston just made it to the quaterback. Now, they can start working on basic tackling.
Well, I guess the bottom line is, that the available receiving corp didn’t seem to pose any problem for Sanchez, so I think it’s safe to assume he’s got enough weapons in house to work with. I wouldn’t touch Poison Marshall with a 10 foot pole…I might throw rotten fruit at him.
I think I’m going over the the Nj.com blog. It seems like one of the better blogs. there were no posts on the entry about the game so it seems like we can all go over there and make it like old times. The link is on the side of the page.
Alex, I don’t imagine setting up a yahoo group would be all too difficult. Maybe, the handful of us die-hards here can just string 1,000 posts up on this thread…
It’s nice to have a place to vent on game day…
Erik,
I posted a message to you on NJ.com, but it has failed to appear. Perhaps I have to wait for a moderator to evaluate it before others can read it?
Erik,
My post just popped up. I’ll be monitoring that blog and this one, as long as it continues to exist. David, are you aboard too? Joe?
Pretty sure JetOrange is gone. For a regular and avid poster, he’s been quiet for a long time.
I had to change my name to AlexUpstate to use the new blog! That blog is much more security-conscious!
mine just popped up
noclown is my new name. Tried about 25 names first
I’m in, I will follow you guys anywhere, NJ.com
Okay :
Alexupstate
noclown
I just blogged.
Sad to see you guys go but glad you found a new place to go. I’ll let you know when I pop up somewhere else.
Keep in touch Jane. We will be looking forward to hearing from you. Does tour Roller Derby team ever get on TV. If so let us know. I might even drop in at The Murrays rink some night. I use to go ice skating there when I was younger. and as a little kid, I would go camping on the same spot before they built the rink and all the stores on Tuckahoe road.
Jane,
We have been focused and correctly so, on what you have brought to the table. It must be also noted that your very nice. Would you consider Bristol ? I was hoping Espn execs read the thejetsblog, unfortunetly we are buried now around page 3
I saw that J-O, and I appreciate that you think so highly of me. I will consider everything, but first, I’m taking a few weeks to chill out, go to the pool and watch preseason football. After that, you will see my byline again!
I think that’s a very good choice…next best option. I’ll be DavidDark over there.
Jane , time to chill , richly deserved, you know it hard for multi-taskers to relax. Expect a call or a tweet Monday from Bristol, or they have the staff meeting Monday and formulate a compensation package that will knock your skates off, proposed and executed on Tuesday. It was that PodCast that put you over the top. Good organizations are about talent, finding it,using it and keeping it.
Hey guys I’m trying, having a problem with security ,I assume.
Jane, one last thing, as you sit by the side of the pool, everyone thinks highly of you, this blog is a testament to that, it ain’t only us, it’s colleagues, other writers, players… you did good
I think that since it’s easier to post at this site and since we can use our regular names, I’m going to post material here until the site is closed down.
I read on the other blog that some were critical of Stuckey. Not me. I was impressed. How can anyone see negatively the tremendous fight he made to get into the end zone? The energy and savvy he exhibited in preventing that interception? Like David, I’m fine with Stuckey as #2. If we can get a top-flight WR, then great-just shift Stuckey to #3. But no way should he be headed to the scrap heap. Why would anybody think so?!
Joe, I don’t recall any balls thrown Clowney’s way, do you, now that you’ve had a chance to see the game again?
Last week I was questioning why they would run Stuckey on a reverse ? The answer was demonstrated in his touchdown run. the guy is elusive….
Well, I think I’m gonna stick to blogging over there. It’s just not the same here without Jane. I mean I love you guys and all, but I do need some updates (although part of me says that JetOrange could give supply great info). See ya, hopefully soon.
I have a feeling they will be looking over the waiver list as soon as it is released. They released 4 players today. Whittacker and Pizzotti were on the list. I know you guys don’t want Marshall. But I would take him in a heartbeat. I think Bart Scott would get in his face and let him know what this team is all about. How would you guys feel losing Cutler and getting Orton. He has a right to be upset. Is anyone else having trouble getting on nj.com tonight ?
Nj. com seems to be working fine right now. Oooops, I said I was gone. It’s hard to stay away.
This is a great article about the money hungry owners and the stadium we are paying to build http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/31/sports/football/31tickets.html?_r=2&partner=TOPIXNEWS&ei=5099
Jane!!
this was one of those mornings that started with:”WTF” happened??? I’ve been out of town and haven’t the time to check in with you and Ernie? As I start up my computer I start to load up my Jet’s/Giants blogs. Only to read that Ernie and you have been let go???? Thats when I said: “WTF” this can’t be?? We were just on your web-cast together!!! We even e-mailed one another!!! I had heard that “cuts” were coming but this as I said on Ernie’s blog is just out right “STUPID”!!!
I have had so much fun waking up to your blog and Ernie’s blog!!! That it brought me back to the days of being right there in the mix of it all! What you did was bring the fan into the locker room, you brought us with you to the interviews! This is some thing that the news paper reader could never have had without you!
God bless be well!!
Colour1
you have my e-mail address stay in touch! my prayers with your family!
Ok guys. I have been enjoying your posts for some time now though I rarely post. I am a Jet fan from day 1 of the Titans. It is ashame that this blog will soon be shut down. At any rate I would like to be able to ID you over at NJ.com. So far I believe we have “Alexupstate” for Alex. “Nocloud” for ErickSec.309. “DavidDark” for David. Now how about the rest of you guys.
Joe b
JetOrange
etc
JetOrange44, how original
Joe b = noclown
Texas Dave.. I also go back to the Titans. I was at the first home game in the old Polo Grounds. Been hooked ever since. I actually went to a NY Football Giants game with the cub scouts. God, that was so long ago. Went to many NY Giants baseball games. Saw Jackie Robinson steal home plate against the Giants. Still a Giant baseball fan even though they haven’t won it all since I was 14 years old.
Joe b—Oh no! I was a die hard Dodger fan when I was a kid. Used to go to the games with PAL tickets during the week and payed to see Sunday doubleheaders. Would also wait for balls hit over the fence at Ebbets field during batting practice for free pass into the ball park. Jackie Robinson! Very fond of him but with his arrival from Montreal the O’Malley greed set in. Instead of 1 pay for a double header fans would have to vacate and buy a second ticket. Man did this bring the fans in from Philadelphia. When them der Bums left many of us die hard Brooklyn fans couldn’t take it. When the Dodgers were out of town with the Giants on the road I would go up to the stadium and root AGAINST the Yankee’s. But they stayed and now I root for them. Home is where the heart is.
Ummmmmm….ErikSec.309 here = ErikSec309 on NJ.com
THIS BLOG SUCKS!!! Can we get some info other than this Roller Derby crap? It’s almost time for the games to start!!!
Joe b—Do you remember the Brooklyn Dodger football team? Ace Parker was their quarterback and they wore tomato red uniforms. Boy Nerf I bet you love this after your last post. I am sorry, buy you will probably be ready for roller derby and Brooklyn Dodger, New York Titan football after the season begins. Do you really think that we are going to win many games with a loud mouth Coach who will wind up eating many of his words? Yes he is very entertaining but what kind of team will he produce with so many old nearly worn out over paid veterans. Like the owner, I doubt that he has to much of an idea of what is going on. He needs to first produce before spouting off so much. The newspappers love him. but will the fans?
I was too young, LOL, to remember Bklyn Dodger football. They were in the 40s and we didn’t have TV back in those days. I remember listening to the Giant/Colt sudden death game on the radio because of the home game blackout rule. All home games were blacked out back then. Todays fans are spoiled, However there are some teams that will have games blacked out this year. Especially with the economy and the price of tickets an PSLs. I remember the Happy Felton Knothole gang show. One of the guys from our LL got on the show. I am approaching this season cautiously. I might even get to the Roller Derby. It is in my hometown, Yonkers NY.
Nerf – Pay attention
Jane,
It’s with dismay that I learn of your departure. This blog was informative but also lively and fun under your guidance. I can’t imagine it can remain that way. I’ll look forward to catching up with you sometime, somewhere – else. Thanks for your hard work and dedication. It would be a shame to learn you didn’t receive the same from your employers. I’m sorry we all can’t watch the season unfold together. THANKS!!!!!
I remember watching roller derby as a kid with my cousins before dinner!! Great memories!!! Yes we ITALIANS eat dinner sometime around noon!!! Hey this could be fun???? We will all miss Jane but she’s got to do what she’s got to do!!!
Nerf I don’t think you would like it to much loseing your job that you love so much!! Jane loved her job and loved the blog and all of us that chimed in with our thoughts!! The web-cast’s were lots of fun and a great way to be apart of the writing staff that brought us a lil closer to the players and the action. Say a prayer and lighten up!
Joe b,
A while back-I think it was on the other blog- you said that you thought that the Jets’ 0-8 record against Philly included preseason games. I don’t think it does. I say this because I seem to remember a preseason game a few years back in which Brooks Bollinger mounted a furious second-half rally that won the Jets the game. I think I can recall one other time since then that the Jets have prevailed, in preseason, of course. Is Philly the only team that the Jets have never beaten in the REGULAR season? Anyone out there know? Anyone out there still with this blog?!
Joe B,
“Anyone out there still with this blog?” Yes the blog is still breathing. We won’t give up till they cut the cord. Hopefully a few of the regulars will report in.
Oh my God…has anybody read this over on Cimini’s blog?
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2009/09/a-disaster-in-the-making.html#comments
If there is any truth to this, I’d like to see the GM fired before it could even occur…Trading Harris for Marshall would be a miscalculation to rival the Favre move from last year.
Sometimes Cimini is right.. not often but this time. I have a concern that Joe B may be on the other side of this but I feel pretty strongly. Denver is looking for David Harris and a Pick for Brandon Marshall. I couldn’t send Harris to the Broncos for Marshall and RECEIVE a second round pick. And I’m a guy who thinks the world of Cummings, Trusnick and Westermen.
It would be total fools gold to make a move like that. Cimini is right on so many levels, about the consequences. Aside from the fact that I think Harris should be a mainstay for years to come; If I’m Leon Washington and they make that move without satisfying me, I’d say “I’m f***ing out of here, after this year.” Brandon Marshall is not worth any of this.
They haven’t cut the cord yet! So in honnor of Jane lets keep it going!!!
Now “WTF” is this “BS” trade all out!!! Thats “BS” to even think that Marshall would turn around?? Has “TO” made any turn around??? We need the back-bone of David Harris and if the front office can’t see this we’re never going to get past the the end of the season! Forget wild-card forget play-offs! This is just out-right STUPID!!!
Keep this going!!
Love ya Jane!
I just read Cimini’s blog entry. I thought it was a promo for a SciFi movie, because it certainly inspired horror in me. Crapiola Pudding.
Yeah, I think we might carry this thread to the playoffs…
Alex I read it wrong. They haven’t won a regular season game with the Eagles. They own them in preseason. I would have to think real hard before I trade Harris for Marshall. I think that if they are talking about it than a trade is possible. How much input do you think Bellechicken had in bringing up the tampering charge. I would have liked Putzier as a TE option. He at least catches some passes and can block too. Comparing Marshall with TO is ridiculous. He has no on the field issues. His team mates like him and he has a good reputation around the league. It’s personal with the organization. If you think he is the only guy in the NFL that does some of the things he does, your dreaming. He is just one of the guys who got caught. We are just kidding ourselves if we think our team is set with the WRs we currently have on our roster.
Brandon Marshall Cleared of Battery Charges, Sets Course for ‘New Life’
Posted: Aug 14th 2009 6:40 PM ET by CHRIS BURKE (RSS feed)
Filed Under: Broncos, NFL Police Blotter16 COMMENTS
An Atlanta jury cleared Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall on a pair of misdemeanor battery charges, finding him not guilty after a two-day trial.
Marshall was arrested in March 2008 after an argument with his then-girlfriend Rasheedah Watley.
“It’s been almost over a year and a half and I’m just happy that now, legally and emotionally we can move forward and hopefully get past thing,” Marshall told the Denver Post after the trial concluded. “For me, I’m excited about the opportunity just to start over. It’s a new life almost.”
But will the verdict help settle his NFL career?
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We love our athletes but http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hruby/061228
Thank God he has been freed to move on, emotionally…now he can devote all his attention to his pacifier.
Humor lives on despite the prospects of horror!
Harris HAS to stay.
Jane, this should interest you..”Whip It” (Oct. 2)
Is there anything more fun than roller derby? OK, don’t answer that. But this flick about a rebellious teen (quite a stretch for Ellen Page!) who trades her beauty pageant crown for roller skates looks like a blast, with help from Kristen Wiig, Juliette Lewis and Drew Barrymore, making her directorial debut. Um, finally?
Guys would you take some of these players on the J*E*T*S..http://nflcrimes.blogspot.com/
Is there really a whole lot of talent on that list, Joe? I’ll take your basic pothead and traffic scofflaw. I don’t want the prima donnas, Wife beaters, murderers, rapists or Romanowskis of the world.
David, maybe not. But these are just the guys that got caught. Unfortunately the prima donnas, wife beaters, murderers, rapist and Romanowski have SUPER BOWL RINGS
Thank you NFL Network…I get to see the game tonight. Don’t want to blink and miss the starters…hope the scrubs put on a good show.
I expect the starters to stuff the scrubs. Vick at wildcat…just go after him. please…can’t believe they bit on a fake to Kolb. Now Shepard for PI…is it time to cut this guy? he sucks.
Vick trips over his own dogs…
This is pathetic…I feel like I’m in midseason form. Will go away and regain my senses shortly.
Wow…I’d make the starters go another series on defense…that was a sorry display of defensive football from a first team defensive, against a second team offense. I don’t care how vanilla they played it…no excuses.
Oh My…as bad as the D was, the o made up for it. Sanchez…just amazing. Simply beautiful exclamation point to a one drive game.
What do you guys make out of the Jets putting a claim on Pats QB Kevin O’Connuel
I think they just wanted to pump O’connel for info…
I just cut Wallace Wright.
Danny Woodhead is suddenly looking impossible to cut. Erik Ainge is suddenly looking like a #2?
Preaseason passer rating, at this moment
Sanchez – 111
Ainge – 110.2
Clemens – 47.9
Apologies to Alex…I wouldn’t have expected this outcome from the beginning, either.
I like Jack Simmons, but he has dropped an awful lot of passes in this preseason…a couple too many today.
I’m gonna start the woohead fanclub. Somebody remind me what calkruck has done to make the team ahead of him. Woodhead has been fantastic tonight. They have picked up yards in the preseason without a big fullback leading the way.
Alright, I’ll look forward to any and all counterpoints or perspectives tomorrow. I hope I didn’t drive the survivors away with my spontaneous diatribe….
Woah, David! A little caffeine with your rum?!
Clemens has some bad luck though, doesn’t he? That INT should have been a completion to Wright, off whose hands it bounced. Another mitigating circumstance is that Clemens doesn’t get to play for very long, has no chance to get into a rhythm, unlike Ainge, who has played many more series than Clemens in the preseason. Also, they don’t seem to call anything long when Clemens is in there, again in contrast to the other QBs. I just know, as I’ve said many times, Clemens looked great against the Ravens’ tough D in a real game and with a shitty O line. Still, all that being said, Ainge’s arm on the bomb to Clowney looked superior even to Sanchez’s! A pretty play, even if it ends up consternating Joe b: Clowney needs to do it against another team’s ones. Joe is right. We need to see it. Don’t want to hear “potential” anymore!
Just warming up for the regular season, Alex
David,
That’s a frightening thought! I wonder if this site has the capacity to handle you! You didn’t seem quite this excited during the last REGULAR season. Are you sure you weren’t on a caffeine iv?!
This season is, really, going to be a lot of fun. Actually, I don’t mind getting my info from you guys and from other blogs and then posting my responses on this one. How many posts do you think this page can take before it implodes? I guess we’ll find out!
I had a couple of games last year when I think I got animated, but I was on the excitable side last night…ha ha.
I have seen Yankee blogs over a thousand that they had to add a second page. It all depends on how long NoHud leaves it on or if the assign another author !!!!!
Clowneys Td ? Was that against a 4th or 5th teamer? Or did one of the ball boys put on a jersey ? By default, nobody really stood out, he still has a job.
Yes we’re still hanging in there on this site???
It’s time that Clemens ask for a trade because the JETS just don’t trust him to carry the team. For the last few years they’ve gone around him and now it’s time to move on. I know all you Clemens fans out there think I’m crazy to say this but, face it they just don’t trust him. He’s got talent, enough to start somewhere else, but not for the BIG APPLE!!!???
Jane lives on!!!
Colour1,
I hate to say it, but I think you’re right about Clemens. I don’t think they’ve given him even one long pass play to try, while the other QBs have gotten several.
I just read that Clemens has an elbow injury from the Ravens’ game. A sore elbow explains some of it.
A few notes:
1) Clemens doesn’t have nearly the upside that Sanchez appears to have.
2) Clowney is still very suspect.
3) This should be #1 – DON’T TRADE HARRIS!
4) Simmons cut – good.
5) Sign Leon now!
6) Sign a veteran WR – on of Philly’s?
7) Let’s get on with the season!
Erik,
After seeing Sanchez in action, I have to agree with every single point you make. I’ve made some of them myself.
It will be fun to let the season begin and see what happens. I ‘m happy enough with our receivers and most concerned with defensive penalties.
Side thought, I heard that Ben Watson was on the bubble in NE. If NE cuts him, do the Jets move to scoop him up?
121 Posts, I tribute to Jane and her work. LOHUD you made a mistake, it is very difficult to admit, but you made a mistake.
David ,
Ben Watson, would mean Chris Baker beat him out
David,
Don’t be too concerned about the 2 phantom pass interference calls. I don’t know what the ref was looking at.
Eight days to kickoff. Keep the Alka Seltzer handy. We have been waiting 9 months for this date. New coach, new players. A revamped defense with a rookie QB. Even with all these improvements we are predicted to be 8-8 by most of the writers. Last year 8-3 after 11 games and we thought we were going to the playoffs. Than Mr Favre went color blind and found the other team more than he found his own. Teams are going to crowd the box unless we get a proven WR. They will make Sanchez beat them with his arm. None of our receiver strike fear in the eyes of the defense. I hope I am wrong, but I will keep a loaded gun on my coffee table. Hopefully I wont have to use it. I remember SBIII. I thought this was the beginning of dominance for the J*E*T*S. Wishful thinking. When Joe Willy sold his soul to the Devil we were sent to Limbo for the rest of our lives. The curse of B’way Joe hangs over us. Hope we don’t have any building jumpers during the season..
Good stuff guys…you all make this a worthwhile place to keep checking in on!
JO, it doesn’t surprise me that Baker would beat out Watson in NE. The Jets should have never let Baker get away, but if Watson were to get cut, would he have enough left in his tank to add a little extra juice to that position? If you couple that possibility with his knowledge of the Patriot Offense, he could conceivably pay a big dividend to the Jets when they meet in that first match-up.
Might want to watch out for that JO abbreviation! But, yeah, letting Baker go was a particularly stupid mistake. Better Watson than journeymen, I guess, especially since he could, as you say, provide valuable info.
Does anybody feel comfortable with this cast of characters as our WR corp #5WALLACE
WRIGHTWR6’1”197253North Carolina
83CHANSI
STUCKEYWR6’0”196253Clemson
16BRAD
SMITHWR6’2”210254Missouri
89JERRICHO
COTCHERYWR6’0”203276North Carolina State
87DAVID
CLOWNEYWR6’0”188242Virginia Tech
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Joe…yes, I do. Another teams throwaways are not likely to be any better than what we’ve got at this point. They have been in the system and deserve their shot to show what they can do. The Jets passing game was the least of their problems in the pre-season, so why be so quick to throw them under the bus?. Have a little faith and give them a chance.
Cotchery and maybe Stuckey could start for another team. The other 3 would have a hard time just making any other team in the NFL. So if Cotch or Stuckey get hurt were in BIG BIG trouble. Thank God for Keller.
David, what did they do when they got their shot in the preseason games. Absolutely nothing against 1st team Ds. We are not going to be playing teams with all their scrubs during the season. I love your optimism. But we as J*E*T fans have become too complacent. Smith did absolutely nothing when he was given a chance. Wright had his drops. And you know how I feel about Clowney (Mr, August). I’m happy to see Woodhead make the team. But I just wonder why and how many touches he is going to get with the backs we have. I’m willing to bet he doesn’t touch the ball 15 times all season.
Joe, I doubt Woodhead will get a lot of touches either, but I still thought he did more to earn the roster spot than Caulkrick (sp). I like the way they are pairing Jones and Washington together in the backfield at times and I think they will live without the extra fullback. Jones and Greene are both tough enough to clear bodies as lead blockers, if necessary.
I guess its not Watson, it looks like Alex Smith, too much of a receiving TE , me thinks for Rex.
Danny is a hedge until Leon signs , hopefully this week.
I can’t believe that fossil , Larry Izzo, over Cummings, mistake.
Only 5 WR, Que Pasa ?
I’m very suprised that Cummings didn’t make the squad….I’m very skeptical about TE and WR, but oh well seems like this is the team we’re rolling with.
Joe – Get the alka seltzer ready and put away the gun.
Agreed on Izzo over Cummings…
I’m on the roof ready to jump. Waiting for Rex to announce his next moves. A WR, P, and TE to compliment Keller. If Cotch or Keller go down it’s season over and I’m jumping. Maybe, I’m also a chicken !!!!!!
NE just traded Richard Seymour to Oakland for the Raiders #1 draft pick. Don’t be surprised if Bellechicken doesn’t swoop in and trade a 1 & a 4 for Brandon Marshall.
Joe b
Don’t wait. Go ahead and jump now. Why bother waiting? This will be a typical Jet (Met like) season. There is no hope for the playoffs with this cast of characters, namely coach and owner. One interest only. Selling those expensive tickets for the new stadium. Players too old expensive and banged up as the season progresses. We need youth and a whole new approach. The Jets should have signed the Giants defensive coach. I personally see little hope for this franchise. How can any team enter the seasom without a decent kicker and first rate receiver and expect to move ahead. By the way before you jump don’t forget to put on a parashute. If you don’t have one an umbrella may help.
It’s only a one story ranch, so I should survive. I have seen this scenario for too long. I guess it’s in my genes. I am a SF Giants baseball fan (1954 World Series Champs), a Philly Flyers fan (74 & 75 Stanley Cup Champs) and NY J*E*T*S (69 SBIII). I am accustom to near suicidal attacks. So i am 0 for 102 with my 3 favorites. I can’t even get 3 numbers on my Lotto ticket (3 0f 6 win a free ticket) for 2 years. I must have been Adolph Hitler in an earlier life. I thought when I first got my season tickets in 65 it was a good move. Now they want $15,000 for PSLs. I just can’t win !!!! I’m like Rodney Dangerfield ” I just get no respect”
Oh my God, put away the kleenex box and give it a few games, at least. Why bother even being a sports fan if you are intent on cutting your throats before the season even starts? I honestly don’t know what this season holds. I see reasons for hope and reasons for concern, but until the games start palying for real, I don’t think anything will be clear. It’s too soon to throw on the chicken little outfits…
Relax, enjoy life a little. Embrace the possibilities while you can. After all, if it does go as bad as some think, why deny yourself the one chance you’ve got to dream a little. Everybody starts with a clean slate this week. Go Jets!
A first round pick for Seymour? Isnt he too old for that? Yikes.
And I love what Woodhead did, too. He is a good guy to have on the team, and I think they could use him during the season…not running up the middle, but he could burn LBs around the outside with his speed.
What is this all about..Is there a trade for Clemens or Ainge in the making http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/09/06/jets-get-qb-oconnell-in-trade-with-lions/
Hmmm…I hope they aren’t trading Ainge, because I think his value is on the rise. He’s got a lot of upside in his future.
How would you like to have Chargers Shaun Merriman on out team? I sure as hell would. And than this is reported….Chargers LB Shawne Merriman was arrested Sunday on suspicion of choking and restraining his girlfriend as she was leaving his home.
Well the J*E*T*S addressed their TE, backup RB and Punter situation and released Danny Woodhead. That leaves WR as our only other need. With 4 QBs on the roster it in inevitable that a trade is coming. Maybe not Marshall but someone who is considered a definite #1.
Possibly, Joe, but they carried four QBs last year too. Ainge was the fourth, after Ratliff. As Cimini notes, do they really want to go into the season with no QBs with NFL experience? Clemens would appear to be staying, and Ainge is too good to let go in a trade unless they can get a top WR in exchange. Let’s see.
I don’t really see the QB’s factoring in a trade either, unless somebody throw something really enticing at them. I think they honestly want to keep the four for the season…but what do I know? I read somewhere that it wouldn’t be a surprise to see one of them hit the IR.
Well here we are the season soon to begin. What it all holds we sill soon find out. At any rate the week (if you include the upcoming Sunday) will produce a win, win, win situation for me. Should the Jets win, GREAT. Lose? I get a free cup of coffee. The local Exon station gives free coffee every Monday morning that the Texans win. So if we lose I get to drown out my sorrows in a cup of (I am sure not to good) coffee. Now thats what you call living high on the hog. As for the Jets. 4 QB’s doesn’t seem like a good thing when they have a number of other issues. Must be something else brewing besides that impending coffee.
One has to wonder? Could the Jets be hanging on to O’Connell for a few days to get info on the NE playbook and then trade him to Denver?
Joe,
Is there another top WR available besides Marshall?
Possibly Boldin from the Cardinals, Occhocinco may be available, Steve Breaston in Arizona, Bryant in TB, Moore or Colston in NO, Avery in StL, Edwards in Cleveland and Jackson in SD. But these teams don’t need a QB. These guys could become available for a #1 or #2. Possibly FA Matt Jones. I’m sure there are probably a couple of very good #2s who could become a #1. The 3 guys we got outside of Cotch & Stuck just won’t cut it.
Practice squad set..No Woodhead…..RB Jehuu Caulcrick, (6-0/250/Michigan State/Findley Lake, NY)
DB Emanuel Cook, (5-10/185/South Carolina/West Palm Beach, FL)
ILB Kenwin Cummings, (6-3/250/Wingate/Maxton, NC)
S Keith Fitzhugh, (5-11/205/Mississippi State/Jacksonville, FL)
WR Marcus Henry, (6-4/212/Kansas/Lawton, OK)
DT Matt Kroul, (6-3/280/Iowa/Mount Vernon, IA)
OT Ryan McKee, (6-6/291/Southern Mississippi/Daphne, AL)
TE Jack Simmons, (6-4/246/Minnesota/Mundelein, IL)
Just say no to Ochostinko…
I see Mangina is up to his old tricks again. So glad we don’t have to deal with this kind of suspense…
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12171089
The Jets are doing the same thing Mangina’s doing, it’s just that we’re doing it with our punter – and it could be anyone back there next week.
Ha ha…I’m thinking Weatherford will stick this time. He’s got to be a significant upgrade over Hodges. I was honestly surprised Hodges even outlasted the rookie, early in the camp.
If we’re gonna get a top rec.we’re gonna have to give one up.I see clownny and a QB,going
158 posts!!! and LOHUD still doesn’t get it!!!
Jane lives on!!
The coach must be sleeping in today. 2;27 and still no new kicker signed.
Someone mentioned where to go, for Jets news & discussion…
I know it’s kind of retro, but lots of knowledgeable Jets discussion still goes on in the Jets Newsgroup – - alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets .
More people only make it better. Check it out.
Good luck, and thanks, Jane!
Jane will be playing I think at the PAL in Yonkers on October 10th!
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It’s a same that the Journal news has done this! even Mike Dougherty was let go! Now “our” hometown paper is made up of reporters that we can’t ask any qestions and or have fun with!! Just “AP” thats “BS”!
Shame on you “TJN” of all times to to this as well! sh*tty holiday season???
I heard the punter was awful in practice today. He averageg 35 yards and completely shanked 2.
Colour1,
Here’s what you said a while back on this thread:
“It’s time that Clemens ask for a trade because the JETS just don’t trust him to carry the team. For the last few years they’ve gone around him and now it’s time to move on. I know all you Clemens fans out there think I’m crazy to say this but, face it they just don’t trust him. He’s got talent, enough to start somewhere else, but not for the BIG APPLE!!!???”
How right you may turn out to have been! Favre said today that the Jets KNEW he had a torn bicep, that he offered to sit out and let Clemens play, but that the Jets didn’t want that and preferred an injured Favre. As you say, they just don’t trust Clemens-or certainly Mangini didn’t. I’ve always thought that Favre selfishly didn’t want to give up his consecutive-start record and that the effect was that Clemens got shafted, as did the fans and Favre’s teammates. Do we believe Favre? Or was I right all along?
GUYS, Do we believe Favre? It’s easy to say what he said. But why didn’t he say it sooner. If he was a team guy he would have sat himself. Why play and damage the arm more. Just another excuse for his failures. The Devil made him do it. PLEASE, I’m not buying that bridge in Vegas.
I don’t believe anything that comes out of Favre’s mouth anymore. I honestly think he may be a pathological liar. It wouldn’t surprise me that Mangini would try to cover it all up, but I think Favre knew what he was doing last year and certainly had the power to take himself out of the equation, if he had wished to. The organization bent over forward for the guy and he used them accordingly.
Favre had a type of injury that was not going to get worse, the thought may have been , if they back off throwing in the middle of the week they could nurse him along. Favre has thrown Mangini and Tannenbaum under the bus, no reason to be nice anymore. The Jets, Tannenbaum, Mangini and Ryan are all in agreement that Kellen Clemens was not a viable alternative, IMO this incident seems to prove this concept, I thought there was some doubt, apparently not..
Alex,
I may not be all the “stat guy” like so many of you guys on this blog, but what I can do is see somethings that some of you over look. One was that Favre was a liar from the get go! HOW? He was only useing our team for the warm up for minnie! I believe that I posted that some time ago!!! The funny thing is that for days no one even cross me on this??? But it’s true. The man we once admird is no more than a sham!!
I feel bad about Clemens!! and even if Farve said he was ready to go, that’s not what the Jets paid for!
The Jets have a BAD way of getting former championship player’s “QB’s” with less than one year left in the tank! Tank being the “opt” word here. I don’t like to wish bad things on anyone but Farve is not welcomed back here in NYC!!! He never had any intention of being a JET! and thats something that has to be in your blood forever!
Jane lives on!
Well there you have it. According to the Jets GM Favre was telling the truth. Get the picture of this sad outfit. SELL MORE SEATS!
He might have been telling the truth, but if he didn’t feel he should have been playing, do you think a player of his stature could have been forced onto the field by the likes of Mangini and Tannenbaum. He did pretty much whatever he wanted last year and I doubt this situation was much different.
SYDNEY (AP) – The IAAF declined to confirm a Sydney Morning Herald report that Viking QB Brett Favre has male and female sex organs.
Joe B.
That get’s the “WTF” was that all about????LOL!!!
“TJN” we’re still here!!!!!
Let us pray for one minute today!
Original story Sydney (AP) – The IAAF said Friday it has received the results of gender tests on South African runner Caster Semenya but is still reviewing them and will not issue any final decision until November.
The International Association of Athletics Federations did not confirm or deny Australian newspaper reports that the recently crowned women’s world 800-meter champion has male and female sexual organs.
This is a must read to all season ticket holders http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/jets_psl_scam_should_be_last_straw_RTvoOTr0UnN9NlhDoxdpvK/1
Dusten Keller is on the J*E*T*S injury list (TOE) for Sunday. Oh Boy here we go again.
Is he listed as probable?
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Please fasten your seatbelts. There’s no telling how much the Ryan Express is going to lurch and tomorrow. Air-sickness bags should be kept handy, just in case, but the crew is hoping for a smooth and enjoyable ride.
That is all.
2009 record 5-11. Hope I’m wrong. But
I can’t wait, but first for me is a 9 AM kickoff in Pop Warner league, which I’m discovering is not good for a singing voice. It’s impossible to watch the kid’s team without cheering at the top of the lungs. I should be home just in time for Jets kickoff, which will make for quite the double-header. Go Jets! (and go Screamin’ Eagles
)
Ohmygod…forgive my OT detour, but I don’t think I’ll see a better game today, then the one I just saw. Screamin’ Eagles 33-28 in a game that went back and forth to the wire. I have no voice left…I hope the Jets don’t torture me today.
Happy opening day everyone! It’s good to see you all keep it going. I am really curious to see which Sanchez shows here, the one versus St. Louis or the one who struggled against the Ravens. Joe b I think you are low-balling on the record so that you don’t get disappointed. As for me, the other game I’m very interested to see will be the Vikings and Cleveland. How crazy is it that Brett comes back to face Mangini in the first game?
Should be an interesting season…
Woo hoo…you rule, Jane!
I haven’t figured out who I should be rooting for in that Browns Vikes game. I’m hoping they take each other out in a sideline collision.
Stupid penalty by Ferguson…way to hand the 3 points right back to the Texans.
Nice kick and coverage saved his bacon…
Decent first half…Sanchez looks wiser than his years. Texans have thrown the kitchen sink at him. I don’t think our “horrible” receiving corps has stunk up the joint, either. Texans defense is no joke.
hasn’t, I meant.
C’mon…lets hear some enthusiasm, Jets fans!
Guys and Jane,
I was so impressed. For my complete impression fo the game, go to NJ.com…......Good things are in store.
We can at least put our air-sickness bags back into the pocket of the seat in front of us-away but handy. It IS New England next week.
But wow. Sanchez was so impressive. The Jets’ brass was right, I have to admit. And Stuckey did several good things today, besides hauling in the wide-open TD pass. He plays harder than he’s gotten credit for, perhaps because of Rex’s in-your-face attitude.
D was spectacular-so much fun to watch for a change.
David, congrats on the PW win.
Jane, nice to hear from you and know you’re still tuning in occasionally. It’s been a long while, though, since a female presence posted here other than you.
Joe, I think you’ll allow that the Jets may win more than five games this year. Jane’s already called you on it!
It’s only 1-0, but this is a happy day in Jets’ land.
I know I shouldn’t get too far ahead of myself, but positives for next week are the fact that the Jets open at home and the Pats will be coming off a short week. It might be chance to jump up surprise them…
Guys & Dolls (Jane) I stated that I hope I’m wrong. But one game does not make a season. Go J*E*T*S please make me wrong. I can take it.
No it doesn’t make a season, Joe, but let yourself enjoy the moment anyway.
I was very happy with the win. Actually ecstatic. But I still question our depth at WR. Marks 18 completions were to 4 players (10 to WRs Cotch & Stuck, 4 to Keller and 4 to Leon. There has to be more options. What if one of the 3 receivers gets hurt. Do any of you have REAL faith in Clowney, Smith or Wright to come in and get the job done. I would rather have Marcus Henry on the active roster than any of these 3. The D s as good as it gets. The O is limited with the current cast of usual suspect. They are all talented and exceptional players. But my main concern is depth. Shonne Greene is a plus for the RBs. But there is no one to fall back on the WR corp. Being a 50 year fan I have been here and done this before. GO J*E*T*S
Great Win. However before you get to excited you need to go to http://blogs.chron.com/jeromesolomon/2009/09/texans_performance_inexcusable.html and read “King Solomon’s Nind.” Next week will apparently be a much better indicator of what one might expect. That is not to say that this was not a great win but this article does raise some questions as to just how well Houston played.
I saw that Schaub’s QB rating was 56 or so. Great D! Has anyone seen a rating for Sanchez yet?
Sanchez had an 84.3 passer rating. He was in 17th place so far. With 2 games to go.
JANE!!!!!
you have my e-mail address!!! Stay in touch!! WE miss you more than you know!!
I e-mailed “Pony Tail” about fall schedule!! I see you’re going to be at PAL in Yonkers on my B-day (10/10)!! won’t miss it!!!
Great start to the J*E*T*S* season Sanchez played well, lets see how “NE” and “Pitt” treat him!!!
They don’t play Pittsburgh this season.
The Jets’ll see ‘em in the playoffs, Joe!
And thanks for the QB rating. I was guessing it’d be in the 90s, so I wasn’t far off, as complicated as that stat is to total up.
Hank Baskett is available. GET HIM
Joe B.
I love your passion… These receivers are not as bad as you think….
Gibson over Baskett
I’ll take anybody over our 3-5. I don’t know if this is passion or penance. Just get us some insurance. If these guys would just show me something maybe I would agree. If Clowney had something to give to the team I think they would use him. He has been around for 3 seasons and can’t get on the field. Smith is a one dimension player and Wright is a special teams player. Cotch, Stuck and Keller can’t play every single play. They need a breather once in a while.
PS, I have not been a Clowney fan since the beginning of last season. Him and the J*E*T*S acquisition of Brett Favre. When that trade was made and Chad was released for nothing (no draft picks) I predicted that Miami would be the J*E*T*S in the season finale and knock them out of the playoffs.
Baskett’s stats are very pedestrian and he has a guy who has had his chances.
One of the real puzzles was the lack of involvement of Baskett in the offense in 2007. After catching 22 passes as a rookie, Baskett grabbed just 16 last season. Where was he? Well, the offense evolved with Jason Avant having a larger part of the action, so both Baskett and Greg Lewis had their roles diminished over time.
Baskett didn’t let that get him down. He led the team in special teams production points, he blocked very well from the line of scrimmage and he caught whatever was thrown in his direction. That he seemed to get fewer chances was one of the many questions about the offense, and it leads to the question of where and how Baskett fits in moving forward.
He seems to have what the Eagles would like in the red zone – toughness, size, leaping ability, strength. Yet Baskett rarely had balls thrown in his direction inside the 20-yard line even with all the trouble the offense had scoring touchdowns.
Baskett’s next step in the offense is to continue to work on his game and see how it all develops. He is a character guy, a good player and someone who may get his chance this year to really blossom. There should be more competition at wide receiver, so we will find out how Baskett fits in during the spring and in training camp.
Joe B
If you look at all the “big receivers ” that the Jets brought in, ie. Huey Whittaker, Mario Urutia, and giving Marcus Henry every opprotunity, the Jets apparently value a big receiver in this offense. it will be interesting to see if the Jets put in a waiver claim for Hank.
The jets may have painted themselves into a corner, all this publicity on Mr. August may make him uncuttable. Sometimes you just have to do the right thing . If they do sign, Hank, Coleman may be seeing the Turk, unless Rex will match Drew up against Welker this week…
Joe B.
Pulled this off of KFFL, a lot of teams interested in Hank but maybe not the Jets
NFL | Several teams have shown interest in Baskett
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Aaron Wilson, of the National Football Post, reports several teams contact the Philadelphia Eagles about trading for WR Hank Baskett, who was released Tuesday, Sept. 15. The Tennessee Titans, Chicago Bears, St. Louis Rams, Baltimore Ravens, Cleveland Browns, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Kansas City Chiefs were some of the teams that had shown interest in Baskett, according to a league source.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/255104-eagles-release-hank-baskett-jets-should-be-interested
My own opinions aside,I really don’t think is gonna happen from what I have been reading..
So here’s a guy who “has everything the Eagles need”, yet they “never passed to him” and then released him? No, this doesn’t mean the Eagles are run by a bunch of half-wits with Down Syndrome (though the Vick signing still has me scratching my head). It means he’s not any good. Rex Ryan isn’t going to get starter material out of him in 4 weeks when Andy Reid couldn’t do it in years. If anything, he’ll be a depth guy, and the Jets don’t need depth at WR, they need a legitimate deep threat. I don’t think a move like this is going to happen unless it’s a big trade within the next 5 weeks, and if so I don’t think it’ll be worth what the Jets will have to give up considering they can always draft someone next year. The team is still young.
Well said, Mike K.
Mike K, Where is the depth at WR? Do you mean Clowney, Smith and Wright ? That’s all they have behind Cotch and Stuckey. Maybe they are looking in a different direction. But they better get someone soon. Because if we lose one of them the price will go way up.
Baskett to the Colts. I guess we’re all set at WR. Keep our fingers crossed, nobody gets hurt. We lost 2 QBs in one quarter a few years ago.
Former Patriots safety Rodney Harrison said today that Vikings QB Brett Favre is a destructive teammate who will leave Minnesota in worse shape than when he arrived.
“Everywhere he goes, he craps on everybody,” Harrison said in an appearance on Dan Patrick’s radio show. “He goes to Green Bay and he leaves them with a bunch of noise. He goes to the Jets, they give him a bunch of money … he plays bad and he craps on them.”
The NFL fined the Jets, GM Mike Tannenbaum and former coach Eric Manginia total of $125,000 on Wednesday for concealing details of Favre’s arm injury from the weekly injury report last year.
Harrison, now an analyst for NBC, said that Favre, who joined Minnesota in August after an offseason of indecisiveness, will eventually cause trouble for the Vikings.
“When things go bad, it’s everyone else’s fault,” Harrison said.—Sean Leahy
Noticed that Jane McManus (the Jets blog writer at Lohud) also just announced that she is leaving. What ’s going on?
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September 17th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Noticed that Jane McManus (the Jets blog writer at Lohud) also just announced that she is leaving. What ’s going on?
Oops. THought I was posting this on the Yankee lohud blog site. Never mind.
So…thoughts about this weekend’s game?
I love the brashness that Rex has brought to this team, but I have to admit that Ray Rhodes statement made me cringe a bit, this week. I didn’t think the Patriots looked real impressive last week, but they will always bring their very best for the Jets, so they don’t need any extra incentives.
Key to the game, in my mind, is definitely the run game. The Bills were able to run on the Pats last week, so if we can establish it early, we will have a real chance. I’m optimistic about Sanchez, but I don’t want to see him have to carry the day against the evil emperor.
Win this week, and I will line myself up for the kool-aid.
QUESTION ABOUT BIG BILL:
Belichick quit as coach of the Jets after one day. I get it, that he didn’t want to work with Parcells and wanted all the power. Fine. But can anybody tell me exactly WHY he hates the Jets so much? Why is he so bitter toward this organization? Why is it a special pleasure to him to beat the Jets? If there’s a good reason, then I don’t remember it. Someone-please-refresh my memory, because from where I stand, it just doesn’t make sense.
I can certainly see why the Jets would want to beat HIM; he abandoned the franchise. Why does he particularly hate us?
All I can think of is that he might have felt like he was pawned by the organization. Mr. Hess brought him in ahead of Parcells and named him “head coach” as a formality, while they waited for Parcells to be free of the Patriot strings and assume the mantle. I’m sure the resentment swelled deep within his pea sized heart, until Kraft got a hold of him and worked that angle to his advantage.
Makes sense, David. Thanks.
As for tomorrow’s game, I see the Jets winning by about a touchdown, as in 24-17. Our DBs are going to get a workout, because unless Jenkins gets hurt their running game is going to amount to a lot of nada. Let’s see how Lito plays this time. Glad to have Ellis back.
I also want to see how the Texans do this week. For all we know, we actually beat a good club last week, one that looked that bad because (I’d love to be right about this) we were that good.
It’s about time we beat Billy Boy at home, in front of Joe and all the other lucky fans who get to go to the games. I know that what I’m about to say will not happen, and that I’m way ahead of things here, but wouldn’t it be the ultimate fairy tale if the Jets were to win the superbowl with a rookie QB and a rookie coach?! One of the greatest sports stories of all time. Sing to the Beach Boys’ tune: “Wouldn’t it be nice if we were champions, and we didn’t have to wait so long!” Beyond the time we’ve ALREADY been waiting!
Alex! Stop dreaming. It would be nice if you were right. Sorry! No way this will happen. Houston is not to be honest (living in Texas,) all that good, and they were also poorly prepared for the Jets and their 1st yr, 1st game QB. Lets hope the Jets don’t embarass themselves with all that cheap, imature, bush league boasting.
TexasDave,
I DID say “I know that what I’m about to say will not happen.” Just a fun and tuneful thought.
I agree about too much trash talking. And, sure, the Texans probably are that terrible. But it’s early yet in the season. I can still dream for a few more hours, right? No harm done, especially when you’re a fan of this franchise forever. You can, too. Reality will rear its head soon enough, I’m sure!
Oh Boy!!! There’s a conflicting report on ESPN that NT Kris Jenkins might miss the game against the New England Patriots due to a back injury. Jenkins, according to the same source, missed today’s practice. He was also limited in Wednesday and Thursday practice sessions.
why hasnt this blog been taken over by somebody else yet?!
Crap…if Jenkins back is already busted, I’ll be pissed. He’s like an old man with a “hitch in his cranky” (whatever that is) or something. I hope that report is wrong. He could at least last two full games before throwing out his back, lifting his 700 lb. baby Huey, during playtime.
I hope that report is wrong, Joe.
PS if he starts tomorrow, I take it all back and send him to Joe’s house for retribution
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Where is JetOrange? He usually has reliable news/observations on what’s up.
Injury-report news? I haven’t yet heard what Joe b heard-and I hope I don’t get to hear it.
TexasDave: As far as I can tell, JetOrange posts on here only occasionally, since this site has become more or less a kind of “delayed” chat room among friends, rather than a moderated site with fresh info pumped into it regularly by a moderator. Glad he still drops by sometimes, but I think he’s on NJ Jets more often.
If Jenkins’s back really is bad enough for him not to play (I heard he hurt it lifting up one of his kids while playing with them), then “Wouldn’t It Be Nice” will probably turn into the “California Dreaming” that you mentioned, to keep up with the archaic musical puns. Funny thing is, I never was a Beach Boys fan nor a very big Mamas and Papas fan. But those songs were definitely in the culture as I was growing up in my teens.
If Jenkins is really out for today’s game, then I’ll have to come up with a sombre song-maybe Sam the Sham’s “Little Red Riding Hood,” with Belichick as the big bad wolf! But seriously, can we win today if Jenkins is out? What do you guys think? I know that Rex thinks his players can cover for each other, but Jenkins is a unique player. Can we win this game without him?
NYJ from the NFL Network
Erik AingeQBIllnessDid Not Participate In Practice—Damien WoodyTIllnessLimited Participation in Practice—Kris JenkinsDTBackLimited Participation in PracticeQuestionable
Sione PouhaDTAnkleLimited Participation in PracticeQuestionable
Wallace WrightWRHamstringLimited Participation in PracticeQuestionable
Kellen ClemensQBright ElbowFull Participation in PracticeProbable
Mike DevitoDEHamstringFull Participation in PracticeProbable
Shonn GreeneRBRibFull Participation in PracticeProbable
Bryan ThomasLBAnkleFull Participation in PracticeProbable
Jamaal WestermanLBQuadricepFull Participation in PracticeProbable
Sorry Alex, but it has been reported for several days. Check NFL.com for injury reports. These are the things Bellechicken use to do. It could be just a ploy to make NE thinks he will be out.
This is the full game report from NFL.com on todays game New England Patriots at New York Jets
NamePositionInjuryPractice StatusGame Status
NE
Jerod MayoLBKneeDid Not Participate In PracticeOut
Dan ConnollyCBackLimited Participation in PracticeQuestionable
Julian EdelmanWRAnkleLimited Participation in PracticeQuestionable
Steve NealGBackLimited Participation in PracticeQuestionable
Rob NinkovichLBCalfLimited Participation in PracticeQuestionable
Myron PryorDTCalfLimited Participation in PracticeQuestionable
Matt SlaterWRElbowLimited Participation in PracticeQuestionable
Wes WelkerWRKneeLimited Participation in PracticeQuestionable
Terrence WheatleyCBKneeLimited Participation in PracticeQuestionable
Tom BradyQBright ShoulderFull Participation in PracticeProbable
Adalius ThomasLBFootLimited Participation in PracticeProbable
NYJ
Erik AingeQBIllnessDid Not Participate In Practice—Damien WoodyTIllnessLimited Participation in Practice—Kris JenkinsDTBackLimited Participation in PracticeQuestionable
Sione PouhaDTAnkleLimited Participation in PracticeQuestionable
Wallace WrightWRHamstringLimited Participation in PracticeQuestionable
Kellen ClemensQBright ElbowFull Participation in PracticeProbable
Mike DevitoDEHamstringFull Participation in PracticeProbable
Shonn GreeneRBRibFull Participation in PracticeProbable
Bryan ThomasLBAnkleFull Participation in PracticeProbable
Jamaal WestermanLBQuadricepFull Participation in PracticeProbable
NEWS FLASH … Welker OUT
Halftime and my glass is feeling half empty. Jets are an improved team, but may have talked themselves into a corner this week. Offense better step up and bail out the defense to open the second half or the D is gonna wear out on us.
Glass getting half full. Shitty break on those endzone passes, but the rookie showed great poise. Fingers crossed…sitting in my lucky karma spot on the couch.
I could do a backflip right now. This was no joke and our rookie is for real. Go nuts, Jets fans….I know that I did today.
Loved the game. But we still need a deep threat. Clowney has been invisible. Can’t keep throwing those underneath passes
Tom Brady is a self centered jerk. He started off the field before the game was even over. No congrats to Sanchez.
That’s the NE way, Joe. They are self centered jerks and that made it even more pleasurable to watch. I know you and I disagree about the receivers, but I raise my glass to you. Love the moment, Jets friends!
Pretty interesting game. Nice adjustments on offense at halftime and Sanchez has completely shown he can handle pressure and think on his feet. Next week against the Titans will be an interesting game, especially if Tennessee is healthy, unlike NE.
Looks as if “Wouldn’t It Be Nice” is continuing to beat out “California Dreaming.” Glasses raised indeed! A happy day in JetsLand and a blow struck against the Evil Empire! Great to see David’s glass go beyond full to overflowing. Sanchez is obviously the real deal. Wow. Just a rookie.
At least this week Brady ran off the field ungraciously because he’d been soundly beaten, rather than because he wanted to avoid a reporter. He’s not so smug anymore as he licks his wounds!
WooHoo!!!
Happy Birthday gift to me!!!
There were several things about this game that stand out for me. Winning was #1. Mary Brady not throwing a TD was #2. Mary Brady losing his chance to tie the consecutive wins record of 23 by Jim McMahon was #3. Watching the J*E*T D hitting Mary Brady was #4. Watching Mary leaving the field without any handshakes was #5. Bellichicken almost crying and his dead fish handshake to Ryan & Sanchez was #6. But my favorite was the look
Mark Sanchez had after shaking Bellichickens hand. It was like “What the Hell was that all about.” That’s 2 in a row for the J*E*T*S over the Patsies. I know I said 5-11 but I love being wrong. Everytime I predicted 11-5 or 12-4 I was wrong. So hopefully my predictions keep coming back and kicking me in the BUTT.
Joe,
You’ve had much to say over the last year or two (as long as I’ve been with this site), but your last post is the one I’ve enjoyed most. Music to my ears!
And belated thanks for the injury report before the game and for directing me to NFL.com in the future.
You know with all my screaming at the TV on Sunday, I forgot to notice what Gholston was doing. I didn’t see anything on the stat sheet from him….BUST, BUST, BUST!
David,
I read that they were playing nickel through most of the game, so he didn’t get to play very many downs. I still fear that you’re right anyway, but it HAS taken some pass rushers two or three full years before they got to be great. Let’s hope; we Jets fans are really good at it!
On another subject: I know that we were 4.5 point underdogs in Houston. Does anybody recall the same info for the NE game? And has anyone heard by how many points the Titans are sure to be underdogs?
I just checked the Pro Football Weekly power ratings and I have to say I’ve lost all respect for that feature and its writers:
Posted Sept. 22, 2009 @ 12:17 a.m.
By PFW staff
1. New York Giants: First major win for Eli without Plax even bigger than it seems.
2. Pittsburgh Steelers: Narrow loss on road doesn’t tarnish them in our eyes.
3. Baltimore Ravens: We hear you, Ray Lewis. You’re still among game’s best.
4. Minnesota Vikings: Took some time to get going, but once it did, no stopping A.P.
5. New Orleans Saints: Brees and Co. not tired of cruising on (Big) Easy Street.
6. Indianapolis Colts: Defense couldn’t stop Dolphins, but Peyton did his thing.
7. New England Patriots: Brady looked flustered vs. Jets’ “organized chaos.”
8. Atlanta Falcons: Hard to stop when air, ground games both are clicking.
9. New York Jets: Numbers nothing special, but Sanchez’s command sure is.
10. Dallas Cowboys: Hey, at least the stadium’s all it’s cracked up to be.
How do you rank NE ahead of us?! It is BEYOND absurd. Check the DEFENSIVE numbers and then tell me they’re “nothing special.” What crap.
Go check out the Fox and CBS power rankings, Alex. Those will make you feel a little better.
Hey Gal’s and guy’s! sorry I missed the game(on business in NC) but I have seen the hi-lites and what I’ve seen T-Rex made the right decision to go with Mr. Sanchez!!!
Jane, how much of this “Crabtree” thing is real??? What could be the back-lash???? To me it’s a lil blown up if you ask me???
First time in the history of the Jets the game ball was given to the fans!! Does this mean we can go from bar to bar carrying the gameball on our shoulders in “WP” screaming and carring on all drunk’d-up!!!!????LOL!!!
ver cool
I have a lot of respect for roller derby
I recall the same lull last year as the Jets cruised to 8-3. Just about nothing being said at this site. But-whoah!-as soon as we got one loss, the switchboard lit up. And it stayed that way to the bitter end. We Jets’ fans just don’t know how to deal with success, right?! I hope to hear virtually nothing starting around 4:00!
Well the team is doing well, but its not the same without Jane… One month
I am still a little skeptical about this season. I remember last year ragging about Favre all the time. Then when we went 8-3 I let my guard down and said maybe I was wrong about Favre. Then ZAP, Favre became color blind and started completing passes to the other guys. I have been through oh so many of these starts. As I have been stating all the time, what do we do if Cotch, Stuckey or Keller gets hurt? We still don’t have a proven backup WR. So I will watch todays game with great expectations. Hopefully they will still be there after the game. Go J*E*T*S
No Westerman and NO CLOWNEY. This definitely makes me nervous. Brad Smith and Wallace Wright are our backup WRs. Maybe the J*E*T*S have finally given up on Clowney and are going to make a move for another WR
Dierdorf just got off a sarcastic wisecrack about those butt-ugly jerseys (sorry, Joe).
J*A*N*E J*A*N*E J*A*N*E!!!!! J*E*T*S J*E*T*S J*E*T*S!!!
I don’t care who doesn’t like the throw-back uni’s!!! I love them!! where can I get one!! My birthday is coming up!!!
Great win!!! This game ball goes to our own Jane McManus!!!!
Well, they made the throwbacks look good today. Next week will be another tough one, but this team is no joke….and I don’t think Sanchez is a rookie anymore.
Nobody can tell me they weren’t worried about this one. What happen to our receivers. Cotch was the only one who showed up. Keller and Stuck were invisible. TJ did absolutely nothing today. Let’s give Greene some carries. Lets make a deal for a #1 with TJ. 15 carries for 18 yards doesn’t get it done.
Yeah, I’d like Greene to get some carries, but everyone who thought this team would be 0-3 right now, should settle down and give them the credit they deserve. They have problems that need to be addressed, but they have done nothing but exceed expectations and it’s about time to quit griping and give them a standing O for one frickin week in a lifetime…
Joe,
I just don’t see them going 2-11 the rest of the way. Just giving you a hard time! NO ONE could have known they’d look this good and be 3-0. NO ONE.
A very tough offensive line gave TJ a lot of trouble. It won’t be like that every week.
Here’s my standing O. Tough road game next week.
Alex Two big games next week. We play N.O. and the Pats play Baltimore. I kind of felt that Atlanta would give the Pats a better game today. Very disappointed with the results. We have Miami in 2 weeks. Sorry to see Chad get hurt, but a little relieved for our D. I am disappointed with TJs performances recently. 10-15 plays each game without any results. Sanchez is coming along but he has made some bonehead plays that luckily haven’t really hurt us yet. I still feel that we have to bring in a top flite WR. That’s the missing piece in this puzzle.
This from Peter King’s column…
“Awful, awful, awful Jets’ throwbacks. The only thing worse on the Giants Stadium field Sunday was the officials’ garb. I believed I said the old AFL officials’ unis made the men in stripes look like creamsicles when these things debuted in the opening Monday-nighter at Foxboro. Ditto.”
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/09/27/mmqb/5.html#ixzz0SQIdhkOx
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I’m going to say something that most of you won’t like. Do you remember Chris Chandler??? A.K.A Chrystal Chandler????!!! Well Your boy Chad was just that Chrystal Pennington! When the Jets knew they could get Favre it was the perfect time to get rid of the broken glass wear!! He has had at least one “good” injury from day one! The Jets just needed the right excuse to unload him! He’s done fineato! stick a fork in him play-time is over!
The guy I feel bad for is Clememns! He should ask for a trade! The Jets have no intentions of starting this guy.
Sanchez play real well, still baby steps but real well!
Lets see what N.O. Sean Payton’s “D” will bring!! You can bet some heavy blitz package!
How bout dem NY Titians!
I’ll play the part of Joe this week and say…I hope I’m wrong, but I think they might get their first L in New Orleans this week. If they can walk in there and pull a win off the Saints at this particular moment in time, I will be very impressed. The Saints are firing on all cylinders right now. The Jets are a very good team, but they are still sanding out some rough spots. It stinks that I won’t be able to watch this game either this week, as have to attend my nephew’s birthday dinner, which will leave us with the Bills game as the primary telecast.
David,
Same with me, except that I can resort to the $300 I spend annually for DirecTv. It works out to about $100 per game for the (on average) three or four games that I don’t get because of the Bills. Looks as if this year the $300 will have been worth it! Don’t forget, you can get a soaking from DirecTv too and can then receive the games on your cell phone, if you have one!
Because they are underdogs, they just MIGHT rise to the challenge. They seem to like adversity. Their closest game to a loss was last week, when they were favored. What I love most about this particular Jets’ team is that I can count on them to be competitive.
By the way, I would not want to be the one trying to block Calvin Pace in Miami in week five! Somebody is going to have cleat marks all over his face!
Alex and David
It’s and old thing that was really big in the 80’s! it’s called a “VCR”!! When I’m out of town, which is about 30 something times a year on weekends I tape games and car racing so when I get back it’s without those long drawn out commercials!!
And both of you and the rest of the guys went completely past my comment about Pennington??? Out for the season! God works in strange ways!
The NY Titians better bring there “A” game this week N.O. is no joke!! Washington looked great, it’s time to have a break-out game for him!
I’ve always liked Pennington and wished him nothing but the best, except if it came at the expense of the Jets. I think his playing days are likely through after this third strike, but bet he would make a very good coach.
Alex, I usually will go to the neighborhood grill to catch Jets games, when they aren’t televised locally, but since I’ll be at the brother-in-law’s, I will just be sh*t out of luck. Maybe it will be an NFL Network replay game next week, but there is no real substitution for seeing the game in realtime, because of the suspense factor.
Colour1: the VCR doesn’t help if the game is not shown because of the Bills; David and I live upstate and have to put up with Bills’ fever every year. A crappy Bills’ game trumps an exciting Jets’ matchup around these parts, if they’re playing at the same time.
David: Yeah $300 for one game. watched on a cell phone, is way too much, even for the Jets, unless you’re a really rich guy!
David, you spoke for me regarding Pennington. Classy as all getout, but, as Colour1 notes a few posts back, fragile beyond the norm.
Hey, I’m on vacation this week and I gotta keep the wife happy. Just snuck out of the room into the computer room at the hotel. So now it’s back to the misses and this blog is all your until Sunday….See you guys than
Drew Barrymore stars in “Whip It,” where roller derby rules.
Saw it! My team is doing an appearance in New Rochelle this Saturday afternoon for the general release. Then Oct. 10 we have a bout at 7, Teacher’s Pests vs. Club Scouts.
What a game this Sunday. Sanchez will have to crank it out to keep up with the Saints’ O. I’ll be tweeting throughout the game. Then Monday night Vikings-Packers should be wild.
Agree with Alex about Pace – this defense is strong without him and I am sure he wants to prove that he is necessary because the Jets have done fine so far without him. Harris, Scott and Pace, what a wall.
Jane!!
your tourney is at the PAL ctr??? Thats my birthday!! I may be going out of town??? But if not I”ll be there!!!
As I said: N.O. will make Mr.Sabchez a man this weekend!! If some of you don’t know, Sean Payton went to the Bill Parcels school for defence!!! IF he comes out with a bruse he’ll be ok? if not they want to drop the hammer on every down!
As For Alex and David I’m sorry about the Bills(TO) infecting your TV!! Now thats a bummer!!They may as well be in the Canadian league! Check ESPN programing for replays!!!
Jane I was just on with Mike “D” about his covering “BS” stuff and not the Giants but this takes the cake, you being still out here with us! We love ya!
Colour1: Yes, “infecting,” a very nice choice of words!
Jane: We do enjoy your occasional returns. I’m sure all who remain loyal to this site will agree that we hope you’re doing well, both personally and career-wise.
By the way, I usually don’t drop in on Cimini’s blog’s comments because they tend to be so often needlessly insulting, but I was curious about something a few days ago and checked the comments to one of Cimini’s posts. It’s worse than ever! A couple of guys were attacking each other and one of them responded with VERY graphic images involving the other guy’s mother, replete with detailed sexual positions. These guys HAVE to be still in grade school. Absolutely juvenile. I love this site, especially since I have no Jets fans to talk to way up here. It blows my mind how civil we always are with each other. Even when I teased Dan about him marrying Favre, he knew I was teasing him and didn’t blow a gasket! Classy, classy, classy.
I meant that the site’s former moderator and those who post here are “classy.” Dan’s not the only one who deserves the label!
I WAS A BIG FAN OF THIS BLOG, BUT IM VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT NO ONE HAS TAKEN IT OVER SINCE JANE LEFT. THE JETS ARE 3-0, YOU NEVER REALLY SEE THAT HAPPEN NOW, DO YA? AND THERE’S NO ONE WRITING ABOUT IT!!! WHAT’S GOOD WITH SHEPPARD AND STRICKLAND VS. THE SAINTS?! I WANT MY INSIDE ACCESS LO HUD!!!!!!!
Don’t tell me Cotchery isn’t a legitimate #1. This from The NYDN:
“Ever so quietly, Cotchery goes into tomorrow’s game in New Orleans ranked third in the NFL in receiving with 18 catches for 285 yards and one TD. Only Indianapolis’ Reggie Wayne and San Diego’s Vincent Jackson have more receiving yards.
Cotchery so far has outplayed Brandon Marshall and Braylon Edwards – two receivers whose names popped up in trade rumors with the Jets all summer. Marshall has been a disappointment in Denver’s new offense with 12 catches for 128 yards and one TD while Edwards has 10 receptions for 139 yards.”
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2009/10/03/2009-10-03_jets_wide_reciever_.html#ixzz0SuN8YkQD
Until we get a legit #1 WR the Ds in the NFL are going to crowd the box. Take nothing away from Cotch. He is an excellent WR but he doesn’t require double coverage. Stuckey was invisible today. As I stated on 9/27 Sanchez had made some bonehead mistakes that didn’t really hurt us. However todays mistake cost us the game. The D did their job and Cotch did his. I just turned the TV off. Can’t take it anymore. J. Cotchery571027
D. Keller331023
L. Washington424015
C. Stuckey1808
B. Smith 1 14 0
This game had nothing to do with anything but rookie moments. Sanchez was bound to have one of these days, but I really can’t see hanging it on anyone else. On that first pick, I saw Smith cutting across the middle looking pretty wide open and that’s where I was hoping he was going to put the ball. He locked onto his deired target and threw the ball right into double coverage in the corner.
Jets will bounce back….this is a team that is still coming together and the future is going to be bright. I would like to see Shonn Greene carry the ball more…
Greene looked really good hitting the holes-quick and powerful. Did he do any pass blocking or have any blitz pickups? I don’t recall seeing him in there on a pass play, but that may just be the rum’s fault.
I can’t say I noticed either, Alex, but I was also hitting the bottle out at the bar (yes, I managed to see the game), with some friends.
Sean Payton did what I said he would do!! Make the kid make rookie mistakes!!!
Now we can only hope that learns from this outing and get over it!!! Game over, time to move on!!
David,
Glad to hear that you got to see the game. Real Jets’ fans want to see the game, win or lose. If it’s “lose,” we still want to see how it happened and to speculate on what adjustments the team might want to make.
When Jones ran in the TD, I really believed they were going to pull off a miracle. The Dolphins are dead meat (er-fish) next week. The unleashing of Calvin Pace is near.
Now look guy’s as much as I want to say we got this one in the bag. I can’t, Taylor still has a couple tricks in his bag and “BP” going to take this game lyeing down! I see this as a game that will prove that we have a very strong team and that “T”eam REX will put up a helva fight!!
IT just sucks that our gal Jane isn’t in the huddle for us to let us know what the mood is with the camp and how Mr.Sanchez is taking this rookie lose?????
GO JETS go Jane!
Well, Joe, if this is true, it looks like you are gonna get what you wanted. Let’s hope this bonehead is worth the trouble, because he might not even be available to play after Goodell gets through with him. Methinks we will see a lot more Smith and a bit of Clowney in the interim.
It’s true. Stuckey is gone, Braylon Edwards in. There are already mocking comments from Browns’ fans about Edwards’s selfishness-and as David notes, he’s already in some kind of night-club boneheadedness. Let’s hope Rex can make him over into our version of Randy Moss. Jason T. will also be missed on special teams. Wonder how high the draft pick will be as well.
This move will open up the offense for the J*E*T*S. Let’s look at this as our cup is half full not half empty. I don’t know how any of you could have been satisfied with our offense prior to this trade. Stuckey had a good first game but then he disappeared. Don’t convict the guy if we don’t know the circumstances yet. This guy was a hanger on of Lebron James. PLEASE!!!
Also guys. These guys are 23-28 year olds. What were you doing when you were 23-28 ? I’m sure we all had our moments. I wasn’t a saint during those years.
True, even Randy Moss matured over time.
We shall see…I am obviously hoping for the best. If he can get on the field and attract some defensive attention it will be a good start. When you consider the fact that Cotchery is playing with a rookie QB, who hasn’t come close to pitching a 300 yard game yet, he’s had a pretty remarkable season so far. If Edwards can be a threat, it will help Cotch be even more productive.
Alex & David It looks like both of you are open to giving this move a chance. I think all of us J*E*T fans will have a different outlook on this trade in a few weeks. The J*E*T players seem to be excited. He has some good friends on this team. Watching last weeks game I didn’t see anything that made me feel good about Stuckey. He couldn’t separate from single coverage to help Sanchez in the attack zone. I thought he would have been a decent #3 not a #2. With Edwards stretching the field Cotch & Keller will have field days. Sanchez will have more & better options and TJ, Shonne and Leon will find holes to run through. Rex will probably run the ball more but the passing options will always be there. Once a team overloads the box look for the long completion to any one of our receivers. I think on passing downs you may even see our other TE catching some passes now. GO J*E*T*S
On Jets Confidential yesterday Greg Buttle made a few points about the J*E*T offense now with Braylon Edwards. One of his scenarios was scary for defenses. He had Cotch and Edwards on the outsides with Keller at TE, Shonne and TJ were in the backfield and he had Leon in the slot. Defenses wouldn’t be able to crowd the box and he said he didn’t think any LBs could cover Leon. He also said the running game would benefit greatly from this move. Just something else for Ds to think about. If we take 3 out of the next 4 we will go into the break at 6-2. I think everybody would be happy with that from a rookie QB.
Joe,
Agreed. I do worry about the 30 drops he’s recorded, though. I wish I knew how many of the drops were game-changing. I’d hate to see us rely on Edwards for a game-making catch only to see him drop it in the end zone.
Still, if he behaves himself, he ought to open up lots of options for the offense, as you point out. I’m hoping he’ll morph into as good a soldier as Wesley Walker or Al Toon. If anyone can do it, Rex seems to be the one.
You have to look at drops in different ways. Was it a clear drop, off his hands, a diving catch or bing bang contact catch. How many times was he thrown to. Last year Lavernius had 10 drops and nobody complained. So Edwards had 6 more drops over a 16 game schedule. I’ll take that with the upside, coverage and opening up the field, he brings. Everybody drop some. .Hey, I even dropped a few.
Happy Friday, Guys. I saw the Buttle comments and he did get me a bit fired up. I have to admit that I really like Buttle, as an analyst.
David,
Where can I find Buttle’s comments? I’ve obviously not seen them.
Joe,
The drops that were statistically accumulated were based on (I admit I can’t recall the exact wording) balls right to him that he should easily have caught. Whatever way they phrased it, the suggestion was that they were all real drops, not dive plays etc.
I’m sure that someone else has had the same thoughts, but if so I’ve not seen them or heard them yet: Two blockbuster trades with the Browns and I’m sure Mangini is sincerely trying to make his team better, but has anyone else been wondering if Mangini is also (or perhaps even primarily?) trying to stick it to Belichick, since the Jets are in the same division as Belichick? Those limp handshakes do come to mind!
Alex it’s still only 6 more than LC had last year. An over a 16 games schedule it’s 1 every 2 2/3 games. It’s not a stat that concerns me. And he had 4 different QBs throwing. I don’t know where they come up with these numbers. The NFL does not keep that stat. I don’t really care about the drops, I look to the positives that will help the entire team. #1 he will spread the defense, #2 He is a big deep threat, #3 He is a great BLOCKER, #4 He will make our running game better, #5 He will help Cotch & Keller, #6 his new team mates have seemed to embrace himand #7 Stuckey wasn’t helping us offensively.
Sorry, Alex…I should say that I heard the comments on the Jets Extra Point show. If this pans out, we will anoint Joe the emperor of our little universe…if we haven’t already.
Actually, I see that Joe quoted Buttle in an earlier post that I hadn’t seen because his post must have been coming up while I was posting my response to an earlier message of Joe’s. Sorry I missed it, Joe, because it is, indeed, a fabulous scenario, with plenty to think about. I love the idea of Washington loose among linebackers.
Is Mangini sticking it to Belichik? What do you guys think?
And, yes, I almost forgot: Joe, despite his aw shucks demeanor, is the emperor. It’s a tiny universe these days, but I’m glad it’s there.
I notice, by the way, that we’ve topped 300 posts. Jane’s final headline that started it all has become very endearingly ironic: “One Last Thing” has become never-ending. I wonder what the capacity is for this thread?!
I just read that Cotchery is probably out for Monday night because of his hamstring. That (injury to a starting WR, let alone their best) was Joe’s big nightmare, which appears to have come to pass.
Not so bad now with Edwards.
It’s time to give Shonne Greene some more touches. Shonne has a little of both TJ & Leon. He can bust through a hole and cut back with the best of them. Hope to see more of him this week. As far as Clowney goes I don’t get it. He has been in the league for 3 years with 1 regular season reception. We only get to see him against 2nd, 3rd and 4th stringers in the preseason. The one time we got to see him with the 1st O he caught Marks first pro pass but there was no separation after the catch. The DBs in this league just seem to shut him down. Maybe if Cotch is out we will see him in the spread. If he doesn’t get in with Cotch out it’s time to let him go and activate Marcus Henry. Marcus looked good when they threw his way during the preseason and with his size we are really big in our receiving corp.
I hope Cotch isn’t out on Monday night, because without the double threat, we will still have the same problem. I completely agree with Joe’s assessment of Shonn Greene and I would definitely like to see a lot more of him.
PS…I don’t know if Mangini is sticking it to Beli, but as others have noted, he is doing more to help us toward a championship, then he did when he was our coach.
This Miami game and the next 3 before the break are all MUST WIN and very important games for the J*E*T*S. Three are against division foes and the other against a conference foe. NE losing to Denver gives them 2 conference loses already. By going 4-0 in the next 4 we will finish the first 1/2 of the season 7-1 with a 4-0 division and a 7-0 conference record. The 2nd half gets a lot tougher. We start with the Jags & NE and we finish with the Falcons, Colts & Bengals, with the Panthers, Bills and Bucs in between. Our Buffalo game will be played in Buffalo on a Thursday night and everyone knows how we play in Buffalo. Still no word on whether Cotch will play or not. The defense will have to step up big in the next three. We all have seen rookie QB have their way against previous J*E*T teams. Hopefully this is not your fathers jet team. GO J*E*T*S
I’m hearing that Cotchery is expected to play…I hope he is okay to go. I think we will need him more this week, than next week at home against the Bills. I’m chomping at the bit for tonight’s game and took tomorrow off, so I can enjoy it properly.
Same here! Tomorrow’s slated for recovery. I’m really looking forward to seeing Pace make up for lost time; he’s going to be an animal tonight. Last time I actually ENJOYED watching the Jets’ D run onto the field was in the Klecko days. Hope as many Jets’ fans show up in Miami as usual. Nice to have an additional “home” game every year! Enjoy the game, guys. Now, where’s that bottle of rum?!
Ha ha…great observations, Alex! You’re right on about the D (although I also liked ‘em for a while with Mo Lewis and Marvin Jones) and the Miami home crowd. Enjoy the rum…I’ll be working through the 12 ouncers, with my Jet friend, Dave. Go Jets!
Oh shoot…Cimini is reporting that he doesn’t think Cotchery will be a go tonight. That does not bode well. I hope he is wrong….
Whew…he is playing tonight. Now we can get a look at the new receiving corps, as it is intended to be.
Halftime Observations….I didn’t like the way our defense started, but am feeling better about things now. Two fake punt…are you kidding me? The guy who got juked out of his socks, by Weatherford, should be on the waiver wire tomorrow. Hey, Clowney has caught three balls! Granted, not big yardage, but they were pretty important catches. One more half to go and my fingers are crossed…
Where is Bart Scott??????? And again we are making a rookie QB look like Joe Montana. The defense has been on the field too long. If they don’t get it together we may need tomorrow off to ease this hangover.
Hey, what do you think about that Edwards trade so far. And granted Clowney is playing well. I’ll tip my hat to him. However the D is gonna be right back on the field.
well, Joe…I think both receivers are giving us hope…and yeah, we’re instantly in love with Edwards. Defense has got to wake back up here!
It’s like Deja vue all over again.
Back to Back games with O sacks
Wouldn’t have thought the defense would have let us down, but we treated Henne the way Mangini used to treat untested QB’s. WTF? I’m so upset by this game. If we don’t trample the Bills next week, I’ll be beside myself.
Someone remind me . . . WHY was Miami 1-3? The D disappointed tonight. I thought they’d lock ‘em down on Miami’s last drive. No such luck. Very disappointing. There are several positives, but I’m still disappointed.
Well, after agonizing on this one all night I have to say that maybe this team isn’t all we thought it was. Which leads me to believe that we could possibly lose one of the remaining 3 games before the break. First off the defense only has 4 sacks total. There are 13 individual players in the league with 4 or more sacks. We only have 4 INTs in 5 games. We haven’t had a 300 yard passing game and only 1 100 yard rushing game. And that was only because TJ had two big runs at the end of the Texans game. Sanchez played well enough to win last night, but he is still a rookie. Edwards had a nice game and Clowney finally show me a little something. I have been knocking him since last year. We needed two trick plays to stay in this game. That shouldn’t have to happen. We made Chad Henne look like Joe Montana. He was 20 for 26 for 241 yards. They were 9 for 14 on 3rd down and we were 4 for 11. TJs second TD was not a TD, but Miami used a challenge on the play before and couldn’t challenge again. I am sure the Miami heat had something to do with the poor showing by the D. If we don’t start playing consistent ball we may find ourselves in our usual spot in the NFC east. That spot is not at the top.
One more thought for the day. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO DUSTIN KELLER? Game #1 he had 4 catches for 94 yards and a TD. Since game #1 only 8 catches for 87 yards with 0 catches last night. We need him to step up his game. Cotch was just a decoy last night. Why even use him, he could have done more damage to his hamstring. Can’t stop thinking about what a terrible loss this was. When Miami comes to our house we better stick it to them.
Yeah, Joe, good question. Looks as if Keller’s been game-planned out, for some reason.
Also disappointed with Pace’s contributions. It’s not as if there were none, but he did not have the monster game I was expecting-and looking forward to.
Poor David has been stunned into silence. Understandable.
Joe,
One more thing. Two weeks ago, I pulled your leg about the Jets going 5-11. I am now not so smug. I really don’t think they’re going to go 5-11, but it now no longer seems quite so impossible.
Yes, I’ve been burying my head under a pillow, since the loss. I still think this a good football team, but it’s never a smooth ride for a Jets team. I’m not saying Pace’s play had anything to do with the Monday night game (hell, they all stunk on defense), but I was concerned that his inability to practice with the team for 4 weeks might create some communication or chemistry miscues. I’m guessing it may take him a couple of weeks to morph back into the Pace we are looking for out there.
Bad news that Cotchery’s hamstring is aggravated and supposedly Brad Smith got his foot stepped on the other night. We don’t need to get thin at receiver. Edwards may be a monster, but he still needs help. Let’s hope Clowney can build on Monday night’s performance for us.
Whaddya say about Clowney, Joe? Seriously.
Joe B ..
Haven’t been around for a while… Gosh, what do you think of Braylon Edwards and the Clown. Smith has that Quad, ( what up with Quads this year ?), I just don’t think its prudent to play JayCo. Gives you starters of Clowney & Edwards with Wallace Wright as your third. Who woulda Thunk?
Wright may be Okay, I look back at the pre season chemistry with Sanchez..
This is what I said Tuesday morning. “Clowney finally show me a little something. I have been knocking him since last year.” As I have said in the past that I love being wrong about some things. J*E*T*S at 5-11 is one and Clowney is another. However the great J*E*T Defense could also be another. If this team collapses like some of the past teams it will be a fire drill for some of our star players to get out of town. I think our #1 need right now is a pass rushing DE. That should be addressed with the 2010 draft unless Tanny can pull another great deal out of his hat. Miami was a MUST WIN game and we didn’t win. Buffalo and Oakland always give us problems and than it’s Miami again. If we lose any one of these games it means we finished the first half 2-3 in our last 5. We could possibly lose all 5, it’s not impossible. Again I hope I am wrong. We need to be more effective on offense and spread the ball around. Keller has just about disappeared and we are not using our RBs properly. No sweeps, everything right up the middle. Let’s get wide and spread both WRs out not just one. Move Keller to the slot more. G*O J*E*T*S
Did you guys read this from Cimini? Another Chrebet in the making?...
“Interesting note from today’s practice: Practice-squad RB Danny Woodhead was wearing a new uniform number—83, Chansi Stuckey’s old number—and working with the wide receivers. Perhaps, with the injuries to Cotchery and Smith, Woodhead was switched to wideout. I’ll get back to you on that”
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/#ixzz0U26lweSY
David,
It’s confirmed now. He played Wes Welker’s role in defense practice a while back and must have impressed somebody. Hey, I’ll take another Chrebet-or the promise of one at this point of WR injuries! Joe was right all along to worry about potential WR injuries.
Yeah, I could definitely see him developing into a good slot receiver. Those little guys are tougher to tag, cutting across the middle.
Here’s a real nice piece on “The Clown”:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2009/10/16/2009-10-16_new_york_jets_wide_reciever_david_clowney_finds_the_spotlight.html
It’s a little ironic that we are here the night before a must win game against Buffalo getting excited about Danny Woodhead and David Clowney playing tomorrow. Thank God for the Braylon Edwards trade. Imagine playing the next couple of games with Stuckey as our main receiver. And this is what I meant when I said we needed more receivers earlier this year. I still have high hopes for Marcus Henry. I like the Woodhead move it could open up a few things for Sanchez the way Welker does for Brady. Don’t know if I will put him in that class just yet. Clowney must perform at the highest level he can taking over for Cotch. Last weeks game was his coming out party. Tomorrow he has to even better. But we can’t take this game for granted. The Bills always play us tough and they will be playing for their coach’s job. The weather may also effect the play and Sanchez will get his bad weather baptism. Let’s hope he can play in bad weather because it is just October 18th. Edwards always seem to rise for the occasion against the J*E*T*S. If we can’t run against this defense something has to be changed. Greg Buttle had mentioned about spreading the ends wide moving Keller out with Leon in the slot. It sounds like they may be thinking about Woodhead in the slot with TJ and Leon in the backfield. G*O J*E*T*S
THIS ARTICLE WAS POSTED BY ADAM SCHEIN ON FOXSPORTS. We are witnessing the “same old Jets.”
It’s an absolute bust.
Look, how the Jets lost to Miami was “embarrassing,” according to head coach Rex Ryan. And he’s right.
Calvin Pace’s postgame chatter doesn’t seem to add up. (Nick Laham / Getty Images)
And to make matters worse, Calvin Pace, who missed a plethora of tackles, had the chutzpah to tell The New York Times that Chad Henne was a “clown quarterback” and the Wildcat was a “gimmick offense” after the Fish humiliated the Jets defense.
Um, Calvin. Hello? The Dolphins destroyed you on Monday, circus music and all. You might want to stop talking.
While the Jets need to be smarter with their commentary (don’t stop talking about yourselves and lose the bravado, just stop ripping the other teams!) the Jets are not about to collapse.
This isn’t Joe Walton meets Rich Kotite here.
The “same old Jets” loser mentality was eradicated the minute Rex Ryan walked in the door. And it was fully put to rest the day they beat the Pats.
The Jets lost on the road on Monday Night Football to a good team. It was bad. The season isn’t over.
And look for the humbled and focused Jets defense to hold Dick Jauron and the Bills to 10 points. And finally, the Jets will get to the quarterback.
For a daily Boom or Bust on New York Sports, watch Schein and Chris Carlin weeknights at 6est on SNY (DIRECT-TV 639).
If the original weather forecast is holding up, I’m afraid the Jets passing game is going to get neutralized by the elements anyway. Crap weather is always a great equalizer for a crap team, so I hope the Jets are strong in the trenches today against the crap-team dujour. If I have to by my co-worker a sub tomorrow, I won’t be happy.
I’d like to see to get the Jets get on top and bury them early, as I probably won’t be able to see the second half, due to a conflict with my son’s game. Finger’s crossed…
David, Enjoy your kids game. Years from now you will look back and really appreciate them. Watching my two sons play sports was a greater high than sitting in front of any TV watching these over priced professionals. Enjoy your day with your son. He will always remember you being there.
Thanks, Joe…I really appeciate those sage words. I will be there in time for his kickoff. I hope the Jets don’t make me miserable in the interim..ha ha. Cheers to you!
I get OJIDA watching this team. They don’t know how to win. They play down to the level of the competition. It’s like sitting in the dentists chair. 0 points in the 2nd half and OT. Stupid penalties, interceptions and a bad snap on what could have been the game winning FG. I am not very optimistic about the final score. Finally a positive move by Lowery. Another false start, are you kidding me. 3 win & 3 straight losses. This team is not as good as we think they are. If Rex was upset with last weeks loss at Miami he has to be Totally p*ssed with this performance. We will be real lucky If we win the next 2 or we could be 4-4 at the break. My prediction of 5-11 is looking better every day. I am declaring right now that I will not waste another Sunday sitting in front of the TV watching this poor excuse of a team anymore. I would rather go shopping with my wife or even change baby diapers than watch this team. After all it is still S&*T we’re watching.
Wow, I left to watch my son’s game after the first quarter and got home in time to be supremely tortured by the Jets. They should have just kept running the football. Can Sanchez bounce back from a game like that? I’d be hard hard pressed to recall a worse game by an NFL Quarterback.
Tomorrow, I wake up and go to work in Bills country and the nightmare will follow me into the working week. You’re right Joe…my kid’s game was much more enjoyable. If not for that, I’d be tempted to go upstairs and smother myself with a pillow (joking of course…barely).
Watching this team is overkill. I can’t take it anymore. However it is my own fault. Earlier I predicted 5-11. So why do I watch a team I felt could only win 5 games. I am going to raise my record to 7-9. I won’t make it a priority to watch the game. If I am not doing anything else I will watch them without any expectations. It’s like being married to a women and knowing she is cheating on you with your friends and you can’t leave her because you love her. Is that sick or what? David enjoy your son and his games. You will be a much happier man. G8o J*E*T*S I don’t believe I just said that.
Internet service was down all day for me, so this is my first chance to vent. Hartsock’s penalty was the worst, in my opinion. You don’t hold when you’re driving for a game-winning field goal unless your QB is about to get blasted out of his shoes. It was a running play, for crying out loud. The worst would have been no gain. Run a few more plays and then kick the game winner.
Swagger is one thing, but lack of discipline is another thing entirely. Stick to 5-11, Joe. I hope your son’s team won their game, David.
I almost forgot the Jets’ injuries. How quickly the kryptonite can strike and render a shiny bright team the same old Jets. Mind numbing.
Yes…stupid penalties did not help us. When you have a young QB, having a miserable day, you can’t back him up into situations that will force him to press. The Jets appeared to do that several times down at their own end of the field.
So what’s next? We go to Oakland, where nothing good ever seems to happen for the Jets these next two weeks could easily make or break the season for this team. I shudder to gues which it is likely to be…
PS: My son’s team lost to an undefeated team yesterday, but they made the playoffs, so we live to see at least one more week of Pop Warner football.
Big Jenks done for the season. Put this year in the rear mirror. It over we can’t stop the run without him.
I’m not going to throw hope down , the toilet yet, but I do admit that we are looking more like a .500 ball club now.
Cimini reports that the Jets are looking into trades, one of them being for Shaun Rogers. If we get him, we may just end up with zero draft picks for eternity, but at least the season may be salvageable. It would then depend on Sanchez’s rapid-and I mean rapid-maturing.
Hey, I still enjoy dragging other writers’ threads into here to discuss with you guys…even if it does seem to be just us three stooges hitching down the empty highway to get picked up by the occasional passerby.
We have a rookie QB and a Rookie Coach. We accepted the fact that Sanchez would make rookie mistakes. But we didn’t expect our D would play so poorly after the way they played against N.O. Now without Big Jenk in the middle they will have to adapt a whole new philosophy. Shotty has to call moreplays off tackle & sweeps. Last week he called a few early to Leon & TJ and they worked. Then he totally forgot about them. Hopefully Sanchez will learn from these next two games. He really hasn’t had that breakout game he needs. Oaklands pass rush will put some pressure on him early and open up short passes to the RBs. Make the plays safe for Sanchez. Look to Edwards & Cotch over the middle and Keller wide. But most important we have to get to Russell on the blitz.
I agree about the running game, Joe. One of the things that has always bugged me about Schott, is his Wiley E. Coyote mentality. When something is working, he outsmarts himself by getting too cute. Sometimes, when something is working (particularly with the ground game), the best thing to do is to keep running it until the opposing defense proves they can stop it.
David,
Bull’s eye on your stooges comparison! I also agree about Schotty. But how do you rack up 300+ yards on the ground and lose?
Sanchez does not look good in bad weather-and we’re only in mid-October! What’s going to happen when surfer boy faces teams in November and December (and January-haha!)?
Yeah, Joe, Oakland looks not so easy after they beat the Eagles. Make the plays safe for Sanchez indeed.
Methinks we needed to run for 400 yards to win that game, Alex. We just might have been able to…
Boy!Jets were smart to let Favre go??He was 8-3 before he got hurt in 2008.6-0 this year and is playing like a true MVP.Ryan is looking like a fool,should of shut up and sat
the rookie QB and bring him in games when the games were out of reach.In a previos post I did say we would be chanting SAME OLD JETS.Ryan has proven he is a long way
from being a good head coach.This team is going in the wrong
direction,as for Pennington the guy is a boy playing in a
mans league.He would be a practice squad QB on any other
good team…............
Dan go crawl back into that hole you just crawled out of. Six games does not make a season. Come back when and if the Vikings win the Super Bowl. He planned this whole scenario. Wouldn’t get surgery for the J*E*T*S so they released him. Than he got surgery for the Vikings. He screwed everybody involved. Let’s see what he does late in the season. Go back to your Viking Blog.
Dan,
Why bring up Pennington? Have you been drinking?!
Joe is right: Favre screwed everybody involved, and I’m thinking perhaps Clemens more than anybody else.
All Favre says is “Aw, shucks” as he screws people! As if charisma can cover up the damage he does. Such as the time he ratted out the Jets, who had treated him like gold.
Let’s keep this blog to JETS’ FANS AND STOOGES, not Favre idolators.
Ooh boy, you sure showed us Dan. Even knuckle dragging morons have their day, but we’re only 6 weeks into the season, so talk is pretty cheap at this point. Favre is lucky to have Adrian Peterson running behind him, but lets see if his body holds up for a full 16 games,
Life may be cutting Sanchez a break. I just read on ESPN News’s crawl that Seymour may not play on Sunday because of an unspecified “illness.” I’d like the boy to live a little longer.
Nedd to beat the Raiders, in Sept. I thought this game was a gimme but after the Eagles game, the Raiders look very tough. Beat the Raiders and Miami is our Superbowl, 5-3 at the Bye, were in it, anything less were done. If Rex is a defensive Genius, he has to show that he can stop the run in the next two weeks.
Man, did we need this! Was concerned about Leon, but confident in Greene. Gotta give it up for Clowney now…he proved he belongs.
Joe,
I sincerely hope you broke down and ended up watching the game, in spite of your resolution a few days ago NOT to watch. A shutout is always fun when your team is the one accomplishing it! Especially in Oakland. I heard that it was the worst home loss for Oakland in team history. Sorry to hear Leon’s leg is broken, but Greene did impress; David is right to feel confident about him, though I have yet to see Greene catch a pass-or at least I don’t recall it. His hands have been said to be a problem in pass-catching.
Clowney owes Edwards! Still, he did have a good game. I still have to wonder about this team’s offense when the weather gets lousy. Let’s see how it goes in November and December.
Meanwhile, let’s relish this one. Miami won’t be so easy.
And, I almost forgot, Pace had his monster game-at last. Three sack and two strips, both recovered by us.
Hi guys. This is what I said when Cotch got hurt & I did watch the game. Jets should be willing to honor the contract offered to Leon.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:18 am
It’s time to give Shonne Greene some more touches. Shonne has a little of both TJ & Leon. He can bust through a hole and cut back with the best of them. Hope to see more of him this week. As far as Clowney goes I don’t get it. He has been in the league for 3 years with 1 regular season reception. We only get to see him against 2nd, 3rd and 4th stringers in the preseason. The one time we got to see him with the 1st O he caught Marks first pro pass but there was no separation after the catch. The DBs in this league just seem to shut him down. Maybe if Cotch is out we will see him in the spread. If he doesn’t get in with Cotch out it’s time to let him go and activate Marcus Henry. Marcus looked good when they threw his way during the preseason and with his size we are really big in our receiving corp.
How sad is the state of the NFL today. In yesterdays 12 games 6 teams score 1 TD or less. And now Commissioner Godell is talking about expanding to Europe. The economy is in a FUNK and this guy doesn’t even know it. Cleveland has not scored a TD in 4 of their 7 games. The Raiders, Buccaneers and Chiefs look like the keystone cops, the Rams have lost 17 in a row and Detroit has lost 23 of 24 in the last two seasons Some of the UFL teams could beat these poor examples of an NFL franchise. Stop worrying about expanding. Fix what needs to be fixed here first. The NFL draft has to be addressed first. The rich are getting richer. Weak teams are making desperate moves to get better by trading their top picks for a quick fix that only last 1 or 2 seasons. The top teams are picking high in the draft and getting stronger. Restructuring the draft is a must to solidify the league.
I’ve been wanting to see more of Shonn Greene since week one. I was surprised it took them so long to get the guy a carry, but I don’t think he’ll have any shortage of carries from here on out. I think is going to be a very tough back to stop.
Joe good points about expansion and I am not anxious to see my team make that trip. Imagine a west coast team having to visit London or vice versa? The London based team would have to log record miles every season. What a logistical cluster-f*ck that would turn into.
I was thinking the same thing. Jetlag (no pun here) is not too much of a problem for people aged around 20, but as they approach 30 and then 40, it becomes, for almost everybody, an increasingly serious issue, and, as David implies, it becomes an advantage for the teams in the middle time zones. Oakland to Berlin is almost half a world away!
And Europe has already shown a disdain for “American” football. So, why shove it down their throats? Didn’t anyone learn anything from the demise of NFL Europe?
Irresponsible pipe dreams.
Hey guys, Jane has just been announced as a writer for Jets Insider…
JetOrange,
Thanks for the good news. I’m sure that the three remaining stooges wish her all the best. She really did do an excellent job when she ran this site. Good luck, Jane!
David Clowney: Curbing his enthusiasm to get to the next level.
By Jane McManus
JetsInsider.com Feature Columnist
mail@jetsinsider.com
October 28th, 2009
Jets WR David Clowney has learned from his mistakes and had a break out game against Oakland last week where he scored his first NFL TD. (JetsInsider.com Photo)
FLORHAM PARK, NJ – When David Clowney was at his lowest this season, upset that his fastest years as a wide receiver might be wasted on the bench, he talked to fellow Floridian Leon Washington about it.
“He talked to me, ‘Keep your head up keep grinding you’ll get your chance eventually, somebody gonna go down or something isn’t going to go right and they’re going to need you,’” Clowney said. “He always talked to me about things like that just to keep my head up.”
So when Clowney and Washington texted in the wake of a season-ending injury to the running back last week, even as Washington was in California recovering from surgery to set the bones in his lower leg, he had unprompted words of encouragement.
“He said he was real hype for me, real proud the way I played,” said Clowney, who sent Washington prayers and good wishes for recovery. Washington is set to return to New York today.
After starting three straight games as starting WR Jerricho Cotchery healed from a hamstring injury, Clowney has eight catches for 151 yards for the Jets, and last week scored his first touchdown in the 38-0 win over Oakland.
“I got so much love for the game I just want to be out there,” Clowney said.
But that desire can get twisted and Clowney can admit that he was angry earlier this season. After sitting for nearly two years under former Jets coach Eric Mangini, the wide receiver thought he had impressed Rex Ryan with a preseason of catches, including a memorable 48-yarder from Mark Sanchez against St. Louis.
But once the games started to count, the man from Delray Beach, Florida was firmly on the bench.
It came to a head when Clowney voiced his frustration in a tweet after the win over the Patriots on Sept. 20, “A bit disappointed about my playing time but very happy and satisfied about the win.”
He followed that with another one that said the team came first so he was going to keep grinding. Ryan was upset when he learned of the first one, but Clowney and Ryan talked it out and Clowney said they understood each other.
Clowney showed up on the inactives list against Tennessee not because of the tweet, but because he hadn’t been putting in the effort like he needed to. He let his performance slip during practice as he became more disappointed.
“I let me not playing in the first two games as much as I thought I would especially after the preseason, affect me in practice,” Clowney said. “I let it bother me let it get to me and I can’t do that, I’ve got to be professional.”
On Wednesday, Clowney was sidelined with a sprained left ankle, but said he’d be ready to go against Miami this weekend. Cotchery, who was limited in practice with the hamstring, said he also expected to be ready to play.
“I feel I could’ve practiced today,” Clowney said, but added that the Jets trainers are more cautious and don’t want to repeat Cotchery’s setback.
Ultimately, the trip to the inactives list might have set Clowney straight with Ryan, who told the player he was a fan of the way he stretched the field. The Twitter angle might have gotten overblown as a reason for the benching, but the wide doesn’t disagree with the decision.
“It mainly had to do with my performance in practice and I completely agree with coach, I was slipping in practice a little bit and I can’t do that,” he said.
Still, he emphasized that he didn’t want to come off as a guy gunning for glory, but rather as a player who wants to be in the game.
“When the team is winning you want to be a part of that win,” Clowney said.
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I’m sure you guys have read this one by now:
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2009/10/big-mouth-joey-porter-jumps-in.html#comments
Both teams have been talking too much crap, but never underestimate Porter’s ability to prove himself as king of the idiots. I really can’t stand this moron, so the Jets better not let us down on Sunday, because I really don’t want to hear another peep out of this butt-face for the next 12 months.
Yeah, the guy’s an ass. Now, where’s that rum bottle? Can’t afford to take tomorrow off, so this week the rum will be only for fortification rather than medication! Hope the weather’s good for Sanchez. I really want us to win this one.
I hope I’m not delusional, but I think the Jets are going to deliver for us today. The defense wants to atone for it’s Miami debacle and the Jets should have a pretty full arsenal of weapons on the offensive ball today. Gotta go up and watch at the neighborhood pub today. Gonna bring my 10 year old along with me for the first two quarters, so I hope the Jets don’t let us down.
Last nights Yankee/Philly game got 3300 post on their blog site. The Yankee fans have a love/hate relationship with their team that changes on every pitch.
SAME OLD JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too many frustrating games to bear
Can we put a hit out on Ginn? In this paranoid world, I’d better be clear that I’m kidding. But he is all that stands between us and a 6-2 record.
That ref’s call on the two-point conversion cost us the game. What the hell did he see?
Still, we should’ve won, damnit.
Jets just can’t put it all together can they? Today, the special teams let us down, but Ginn was still the hitman. I was being taunted by some guy with two teeth, until I finally offered to leave him toothless, if he didn’t STFU…Guy was a 49’ers fan to boot. Mind you, I’m not normally violent by nature, but wtf….grrrr.
Gotta sit back and say this is a learning year. Also they said Sanchez had big hands. I don’t see them helping him. Maybe he is not used to a slick hard football. So don’t let Clemens go. 378-127 total net offense, 104-52 rushing and 251-52 passing. Cotch, Keller and Edwards made some great catches on bad throws that helped his numbers Some of the blame has to go to the coaching staff. 12 men on the field, Two 2 pt conversion failures. They over think too much. Sanchez needs to gain some confidence. He looks like a little spoiled brat when it doesn’t go his way. On both KO returns Woodhead gave up the outside position. Why didn’t they show him what he did wrong on the first one so he wouldn’t do it again. So we finish the first half at 4-4 losing 4 of 5 after going 3-0 to start the season. 5-11 was my early pick. But after a 4-4 start I think the best they can do will be 7-9. But I’ll predict 6-10. That will give up a possible top 10 pick.
I think we are what we’re likely to be this year…I’ll stick with my earlier call of an 8-8 year. Special teams let us down bad yesterday. I think a lot of Mark’s throws are attributable to the fact that he seems determined to put the ball in a place where only his guys can get them, since the Buffalo disaster. I’d rather see him throw the ugly ball into a guys feet, than the pick 6.
There are no free rides in the 2nd half of the season for the Jets. Sure you can say TB but the team seems to play down to the competition. Four of the seven teams we play have winning records right now. Buffalo has already beaten us with a second string QB and it is going to be cold in Buffalo on Dec 3rd at night. Sanchez cannot handle a cold slick football. He never played in the cold before. His off season training should be throwing passes to Clowney in Jan-March outside at the Jets training facility. Get him acclimated to east coast winters. 5-11 is looking pretty good right now. Sorry guys this is like Deja Vu all over again.
I’ll hold you to that prediction, Joe. On any given day the Jets have shown they can beat or be beaten by just about any kind of team. They are capable of playing good ball, if they could quit shooting themselves in the foot.
I was talking on the phone to a friend of mine. I asked him if he saw the game yesterday and he said no but I think the Phillies won. I said no I’m talking about the Jet game and the Yankees won. He said he doesn’t watch sports and I was stunned. He told me he would get so upset when he was a kid if his team lost so he just stopped watching. After I hung up I thought to myself, how much grief have I had watching my teams over the years. Wish I could just stop and be like him. Is there some kind of sports junkie rehab center anywhere? If there was I would go to Rehab!!!!!!!!!!!
I love the levity, Joe. I sometimes wonder if we’re just a bunch of retards here (no offense to anybody)! We’re junkies all right. Unfortunately, there’s no rehab possible for us. But IF we ever win another one, it will be sweeter than any Yankees win ever. Sweeter than any 49ers win ever (at least I assume, David, that we three stooges still have most of our teeth-more than two, at any rate). Sweeter than just about any win in sports. The payoff for all the pain will be tremendous.
I still recall being a teenager in Queens (Elmhurst) when we won. My two friends and I all ran outside with newspapers that we were tearing up like confetti and throwing it all around and jumping up and down and then-we noticed: no one else was doing anything! The streets were all just normal! That’s when we realized that, though we’d won, NYC was still Giants territory, even in Queens. I wonder what the next one will be like, especially in NJ, I guess, these days. I wonder if we’ll be alive to see it.
Alex, when the JETS were going to the SB I was working for a soda company in New Rochelle. There were about 40-50 Giant fans. They all said the Jets would lose by 40 points. I insisted the Jets would win. Everybody wanted to bet me but they wouldn’t give me the points that the books were giving. One afternoon at a meeting I said the Jets would win outright and everybody jumped in my face and wanted the bet. One guy said “I’ll give you 10 to 1 odds even”. I was cornered and said OK to a $25.00 bet. Well at least 15 guys said I’ll take that bet. I was stubborn and said OK to all . After all it was only $375.00 at the time. Well when the Jets won I went to work very early on Monday, stopped at a stationary store and bought 40 Daily News papers. I put one in everybody’s mail bin. When they came in in the morning I heard to words that still ring in my head LUCKY & FIXXED. They wouldn’t give the Jets credit and unfortunately only 3 of the 15 actually honored their bet. I heard excuses like, I was only kidding, I wouldn’t have taken you money (Yeah Right) and I never made that bet. I kept a list of guys who didn’t pay and when I see them now and than I remind them right in front of their friends they still owe me $250.00. Even when I go to a funeral I always tell someone He still owes me $250.00. I know I’ll never see any of that money now but the following August I had the privilege to go to work with another 40 Daily News papers showing Mike Battle jumping over a Giant defender for a TD with the Jets beating their great NY Giants. Some memories will always remain like your memory of….. still recall being a teenager in Queens (Elmhurst) when we won. My two friends and I all ran outside with newspapers that we were tearing up like confetti and throwing it all around and jumping up and down and then-we noticed: no one else was doing anything! The streets were all just normal! That’s when we realized that, though we’d won, NYC was still Giants territory, even in Queens. I wonder what the next one will be like, especially in NJ, I guess, these days. I wonder if we’ll be alive to see it.
Alex, Hopefully we will all still be alive. LOL
That’s another thing that keeps us going, Joe: The humor! By the way, I still want to beat the hell out of Don Shula sometime in a dark Miami alley for not covering that grass field. On a good, dry field the Jets would’ve kicked their asses.
Ha ha…my friend and old college roomate was just talking about that sloppy field the other day, Alex. I recall him punching out a ceiling tile, after that game. Unfortunately most of my Jets memories are nightmares…I’m still waiting for the really big one, because I was too young to appreciate the first.
Joe,
Forgot to thank you for the story about all those Giants’ fans eating crow. You were sure the Jets were going to win. I recall that I really really HOPED they’d win, but confess that I didn’t have your confidence.
I think they’re going to get better this year, even with Jenkins and Washington gone. I am stupidly going out on a slender limb and predicting 6-2 for the second half. They’ve been competitive in every single game and sooner or later the bounces are going to start to go their way.
One last thought: from all I’ve read, Gholston has an amazing athlete’s body, impressing both players and coaches, so I’m wondering, can they pull a Brandon Moore and try converting Gholston to a new position, maybe offense? Tight end? He seems to have decent speed. Think the Jets’ brass have ever considered such a move?
Alex, I wasn’t sure about anything. I was just sick and tired of listening to them go on about how bad the Jets were gonna get beat. I just had to do something. After all we had Joe Namath and they had Earl Morrall. I normally never bet on sporting events.
Joe,
A while back you pinpointed the year etc. for Namath’s greatest game. Do you know how I’d get access to the game’s stats? My recollection is that he threw for 497 yards on only about 15 completions (and not many incompletions either!). I just want to make sure my memory isn’t getting too foggy as I age!
On the NJ Jets site I put a young Namath-basher in his place not long ago. He said that any QB can have one exceptional game and cited other QBs who’ve had 500-yard games. When I pointed out that Namath did it on only about 15 completions, the guy just shut up. It just might be the best ratio of yards per completion in NFL history.
Alex, the other long TD pass was to John Riggins. Go to this website and scroll down to 9/24 games http://www.profootballresearchers.org/Linescores/1972.pdf
Ed Bell also had a 60+ yard TD.
Cool link, Joe. I can smell the bubble gum scent wafting off the football cards, when I peruse some of the names.
I’m very grateful for the link too, Joe. I didn’t recall the 13 incompletions, but the math is still staggering, especially with the old-time passing-game rules. It works out to 33 yards per completion! I’d love a DVD of the whole game, and for the umpteenth time I complain that the game is never shown on NFL’s Greatest Games.
It was Unitas throwing for 376 yards, too. Why would the powers that be not consider the game a classic?
Thanks again. You just made my day.
Here is another site with a little more on the game. Caster had 6 for 203 and Eddie Bell had 7 for 197 . http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197209240clt.htm
On another note, there were 4 receivers who went over 100 yards in that game. I would think that would be an NFL record.
Nice point! I’ll bet you’re right.
One thing that’s cool about the new site Joe recommended is that you get a blow-by-blow summary of the scoring. It reminded me of just how see-saw the game was. Close until the very end, which is really how I remember it first-hand (via my t.v. in 1972). Another reason to cry foul that the game’s never been on NFL’s Greatest Games, which don’t often go further back than the 1980s. I guess they’re in love with all the gaudy QB stats that resulted from all the QB-enhancing rule changes. You know: Joe Montana and all that west-coast offense crap. Boring. You want excitement: watch this 1972 Jets-Colts game.
Joe, you remember what may have triggered Namath’s great performance? The Colts were all crowing about their new-style zone defense, geared toward stopping the long-passing game. It was just a challenge to Namath, and, as usual when he was in his heyday, he made them eat crow.
Asked Randy Lange, the Jet beat reporter if that was a record
Randy Lange Said:
“joe b, it happened three times after that game in Jets history. Sept, 21, 1986, Jets (Wesley Walker 6-194, Al Toon 7-111) vs. Miami (Mark Clayton 8-174, Mark Duper 7-154); Nov. 27, 1994, Jets (Rob Moore 7-124, Art Monk 5-108) vs. Miami (Mark Ingram 9-117, Irving Fryar 5-103); and Sept. 28, 2008, Jets (Laveranues Coles 8-105) vs. Arizona (Larry Fitzgerald 8-122, Steve Breaston 9-122, Anquan Boldin 10-119).”
So-not even close to a record if the Jets alone have done it a total of four times. I wonder if Namath’s 15 completions for a 33-yard average per completion is a record? I’ll bet anyone with a similar yardage total took way more than 15 completions to reach it. That is, find anyone who had 15 completions in a game and see what their average per completion is. Namath has to be on top in this one. Once I saw a list of 500-yard passing games and their QBs, and I recall that some of them had 30 or 40 completions to get there.
An amazing game.
It’s nice not having that knot in my stomach. I’ll enjoy my dinner to-nite.
Wow, I’m starting to think the Jets might not be the worst team in the meadowlands. The Giants are in an incredible tailspin. A lot of games were kind of going our way today, but the Giants gave the Chargers that one. I was hoping the G-men would hang a 4th loss around the Chargers necks, but what a stupefying mismanagement of that last series inside the Chargers 10. I knew the Chargers were going to come right back down their throats. Manning has a hell of an arm, but he has the mobility of a statue…If their is a more lead footed QB in the NFL, somebody point them out for me.
Well, it’s nice to marvel at the ineptness of somebody elses team for one Sunday.
You guys are hilarious: and I agree with all you say, especially about Joe’s stomach. I am remarkably relaxed tonight, which shows that fans need the bye week just as much as the players and staff. At least Jets’ fans need it. Yeah, David, I watched the second half of the Giants’ game: “it’s nice to marvel at the ineptness of somebody elses team for one Sunday.”
New England two weeks from now. That might be our season on the line. I am, obviously, still stupidly hopeful.
Wow, Cutler’s 5 pick night gives him 17 on the year. At least our QB can play the rookie card for his miserable outings. I’m really glad we didn’t bring Cutler to the Jets. Viva Sanchez!
Sanchez sucks.
J-E-T-S SUCK, SUCK, SUCK!!!
I’m officially though with this team for the year. I’m too old to suffer this form of continuous torture. These overpaid fools should be forced to forfeit their salaries to the bleeding working class schmucks who give up their hard earned dollars to be bitch-slapped like this, time and time again. They can call it the tortured fan endowment fund or something…God knows they don’t deserve it. I’m more disgusted than I have ever been, by this team…over and out.
Just got home from Buffalo Wild Wings. My two sons took me out to watch the jets today for my birthday. When the jets scored in the 4th quarter I said the Jags have us right where they want us. This is jet protocol, score and allow the other team to keep the ball till the final play and score. Just something I have grown accustom to. I said 5-11 early and I added another game later to 6-10. I am now declaring that there is no way in hell that this team wins more than 6 games. Even if they do I won’t know because I will not be following them anymore this year. I won’t even spell them with a capital J. Rex keeps saying this is a good team. I am sick of all the talk, I want results. Don’t tell me, show me. I am watching a replay of New Rochelle HS vs Monroe Woodbury HS in the NY state quarter finals. It’s much more entertaining than The jets. I don’t know why so much hope was put on this team with a rookie QB & coach. Reality is a terrible thing when you are a jet fan. You never get what you hope for, just everything you hoped you wouldn’t get.
I’ve been at this too long to retire, David. I’ll watch ‘em to the very end, but I guess that defines me as a Jets’ masochist. Or is that just the price of admission to the Jets’ fan club?
A sad way to top 400 posts.
Joe gone too? Just one stooge left this year, I guess.
Happy Birthday, Joe! I hope those crappy Jets didn’t spoil the day too badly for you. At least you had time out with your sons…I hope that soothed the pain. My 10 year old was stranded at home with strep throat and he called me at the bar to direct some appropriately aimed hex and some karma at the TV. The Jets started playing much better after his call, so I credit him with the temporary surge.
I was thinking the exact same thing as you, after we got that last score. When the Jags fell down short of the goal line, I knew it was over. My friends asked why I thought it was bad that he fell short of the goal line, but I knew they were gonna drain every last drop of blood and sink us. I walked out of the bar right there to spare myself the last bit of agony.
I know that this is crazy to think and even crazier to say, but with NE losing late last night, there is still a glimmer of hope left for these Jets (sorry, Joe: jets). They can still win the division if they win next week and end the year “tied” with NE, whom they’ll have beaten twice. That’s the only way they have a chance at the playoffs. But even as I say this, I have to think, how far could they possibly go in the playoffs anyway? Lowery looks as if he couldn’t cover my mother out there, and Sheppard can’t tackle to save his life.
All I can think of is that sometimes a team will inexplicably come together and finish up strong, as the Colts did last year and the Jags are doing this year. But I’m not holding my breath. David, can your son do anything more to help out here?
Guys, I am amazed that we are still grabbing at straws. Do either of you think we can beat NE or Indy or Atl or even Cincy. I don’t know if we can beat Buff, TB or Carolina. We would need 5 wins just to be 9-7. I don’t see it. Even all the callers on WFAN & ESPN are complaining this week. We may get totally destroyed by NE this week. Especially after last nights game. They will be looking for some source of revenge on us. Also if Miami goes 9-7 they would go ahead of us based on head to head record. Rex decided on our starting QB 2 weeks into preseason. He didn’t even give the other guys a shot. Clemens didn’t get to throw downfield at all. Every pass play they called for him were short screens & outs. They didn’t want him to look good. Rex made a big mistake and is too stubborn to make a change. There have been a few games we lost where a change was necessary but didn’t happen. Too much trash talk that after a while didn’t seem to motivate anybody. Kerry Rhodes has been terrible and Bart Scott hasn’t been anything special either. Sanchez is playing like a rookie making his mistakes. They said he had huge hands but he hasn’t been ableto hold on to the football. He may become a franchise QB, but not this season. He should be benched like Vince Young was and become a student for the rest of the season. Make him really, really want his job back. Take off the kid gloves. He has been pampered long enough.
No, Joe…I’ve seen the light…err, darkness and my glass is well below half empty, where the Jets are concerned. I’m not saying I will completely stop watching them, but I’ll be less likely to go out to see them, if they aren’t my regularly scheduled telecast and I certainly won’t be thinking about playoff possibilites. I’ll just be looking for signs that they can learn from their mistakes and play with some heart. I have to admit that I’m even cynical about those prospects right now.
Just to show you how much LoHud thinks about the jets I went back a few post to find thisjoe b
August 26th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Lohud this is directed directly at you and whoever you send us as a replacement. These J*E*T bloggers and Jane were like a little internet family. We bled green as a family. She read our little blogs and answered our questions. I hope we don’t go through what we went through when Andrew was let go. Jane not only covered the J*E*T*S, she also covered the Rangers and HS softball. You seem to overload these reporters and than discard them. How many more outstanding reporters are you going to just kick out. Tony P. Joe Lombardie, Andrew Gross, Ernie Palladino and Jane were people who gave you their all and “Poof, just like that they are gone. I WILL BE GOING BACK A COPYING SOME EARLIER QUOTES JUST FOR FUN.
THIS WAS A GOOD ONE AND MAYBE WE DO NEED A CHANGEAlex
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Woah, David! A little caffeine with your rum?!
Clemens has some bad luck though, doesn’t he? That INT should have been a completion to Wright, off whose hands it bounced. Another mitigating circumstance is that Clemens doesn’t get to play for very long, has no chance to get into a rhythm, unlike Ainge, who has played many more series than Clemens in the preseason. Also, they don’t seem to call anything long when Clemens is in there, again in contrast to the other QBs. I just know, as I’ve said many times, Clemens looked great against the Ravens’ tough D in a real game and with a shitty O line. Still, all that being said, Ainge’s arm on the bomb to Clowney looked superior even to Sanchez’s! A pretty play, even if it ends up consternating Joe b: Clowney needs to do it against another team’s ones. Joe is right. We need to see it. Don’t want to hear “potential” anymore!
What ever happened toErik Sec.309
September 4th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
A few notes:
1) Clemens doesn’t have nearly the upside that Sanchez appears to have.
2) Clowney is still very suspect.
3) This should be #1 – DON’T TRADE HARRIS!
4) Simmons cut – good.
5) Sign Leon now!
6) Sign a veteran WR – on of Philly’s?
7) Let’s get on with the season!
If this thread will stay up, I will post (but also post on NJ.com)
joe b
September 12th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
2009 record 5-11. Hope I’m wrong. But
Remember when we felt so good about this season.joe b
September 21st, 2009 at 10:24 am
There were several things about this game that stand out for me. Winning was #1. Mary Brady not throwing a TD was #2. Mary Brady losing his chance to tie the consecutive wins record of 23 by Jim McMahon was #3. Watching the J*E*T D hitting Mary Brady was #4. Watching Mary leaving the field without any handshakes was #5. Bellichicken almost crying and his dead fish handshake to Ryan & Sanchez was #6. But my favorite was the look
Mark Sanchez had after shaking Bellichickens hand. It was like “What the Hell was that all about.” That’s 2 in a row for the J*E*T*S over the Patsies. I know I said 5-11 but I love being wrong. Everytime I predicted 11-5 or 12-4 I was wrong. So hopefully my predictions keep coming back and kicking me in the BUTT.
Alex
September 27th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Joe,
I just don’t see them going 2-11 the rest of the way. Just giving you a hard time! NO ONE could have known they’d look this good and be 3-0. NO ONE.
A very tough offensive line gave TJ a lot of trouble. It won’t be like that every week.
Here’s my standing O. Tough road game next week. Alex, How about now LOL
David it wasn’t too long ago we all felt like this.David
October 12th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
I’m hearing that Cotchery is expected to play…I hope he is okay to go. I think we will need him more this week, than next week at home against the Bills. I’m chomping at the bit for tonight’s game and took tomorrow off, so I can enjoy it properly.
These were just some excerpts I thought would make all of us have a good laugh.
Thanks, Joe…we could certainly use a good laugh or two right about now. Maybe Dan will bounce through here sporting a clown nose or something
Eric 309 is over on jets NJ and it sounds like he is ready to tighten the noose and jump Posted by eriksec309
November 16, 2009, 4:08PM
People that need to stop talking:
1) Rex Ryan – Don’t ever sya that the the fans need to “bring it.” Personally, I (along with thousands) of other Jet fans that have been going to games over the past 10 years have brought our enthusiasm. What have we gotten in return? Year after year of dissapointment. This team finds ways to lose. They find ways to let the fan base down.
2) Woody Johnson – Telling us that this team is a playoff team? Playoff teams give up special teams td’s? Playoff teams have defensive meltdowns in the most critical situations? Playoff teams don’t complete the easy screen pass for a td? Playoff teams don’t tackle well? Playoff teams don’t sack the QB or force that many turnovers…...please.
3) any Jet player or coach that tells us that this defense is ranked 2nd in the league. If you watch this defense play on a week to week basis, you know that it is not that good. That is a truly misleading stat.
4) Any exec. that can think of a reason why any Jet fan should pay a PSL to watch this team/franchise let us down over and over again.
I say thanks too, Joe. I did have a good laugh or three, as you expected. 2-11 on the way to 5-11 is starting to look good!
I’m no Yankee fan, so I don’t have that to fall back on. Maybe Syracuse basketball? I’ll still watch the Jets/jets, every down, every year, as long as I’m still alive. So what if I’m most of the way to brain-dead? How else do you explain such ridiculous loyalty?!
SU basketball…yes, Alex! I’m psyched to see how they match up against Cal tomorrow.
David.. We have a kid from my area playing at cuse. His name is Mookie Jones. He was a legend around here when he was in HS at Peekskill. I go to about 80 high school games a year. That’s all sports. Of course it’s easy cause I am a HS Softball & Volleyball official. When I am not working a game I am attending one. Saw Mookie about 30 times. I really enjoy HS sports.
David,
Devendorf and Harris were foolish to depart the program early. Of course, Devendorf acted foolishly on many occasions, but I really liked Harris: as a player, as an imposing athletic physique, and as a person. Cliches were always at a minimum when he spoke to the public. Actually, I think my wife had a crush on him, for all the same reasons that I liked him!
Joe, I actually prefer to watch HS, college, and minor-league baseball. It’s a purer form of the game than the pros, with all their free-agent movement. I love the enthusiasm at the so-called “lower levels.” Same for college and HS basketball. When I was a kid I was a Mets fan, but I also knew the players on the other teams, even the Yankees, and I even knew the bench players! No way these days.
Also, Joe, as an official, how do you deal with some of the crazy parents that (I expect) get in your face when a call goes against their kid? My best friend once umped for summer leagues and had to deal with that kind of shit all the time; it was the only unenjoyable part of umpiring for him. The kids and coaches he could deal with; the parents, not so much.
The HS sports I officiate are girls softball & girls volleyball. I can honestly say I haven’t had a parent get in my face ever. HS rules are so strict and the girls are perfect ladies at that level. Recreation ball is a totally different animal. Especially mens softball. Many of them were their HS star and they think they are never wrong. I have ejected many player from games on their own conduct. Once the F
Word is used they are gone. Close calls are the main cause of problems. One team thinks they are safe and the other thinks they are out. So somebody is going to be upset. Girls travel softball is where you get the parents complaints. Some of them pay thousands of dollars for their daughters to play on these teams. They have specialty coaches for pitching and hitting that charge $50.00 per 1/2 hr. So the parents think that daughters are going to get full rides to college. If they took the money they paid for instructions and travel teams it would add up to more than they get from the colleges. I had a game last year 12 Under. the girl pitching walked the first 8 batters ( 5 runs per inning rule)on maybe 35 pitches. She was nowhere near the plate. Actually threw 2 balls over the backstop. She also missed half of the balls thrown back to her by the catcher. In the 2nd inning she did the same thing. After the game her father told me she just had an off day and she was going back to her pitching coach twice a week instead of once. This girl was 12 years old and weighed about 160 lbs. There was no way in hell she would ever be an athlete. She was decked out in about $125 worth of under armour gear and had a glove that looked like it should be worn by Albert Poulhos. The bats these kids use are about $140$180 and if they don’t hit a HR in a couple of weeks the parents run out and get them another. Maybe half these girls make their HS softball team and if they are the exception maybe one out of every 4 teams go on to make their college teams. Full Rides only for the elite. In section 1 we have about 50+ schools and maybe 4 or 5 girls get Full Rides. 50 schools X 15 players = 750 players and only 5 get rides. That’s 007%.I don’t have a clue why those lines are through the blog.
Hope you can read between the lines. I don’t know why that happened
I wondered if you were sending us a subliminal message, Joe. You couldn’t pay me enough to referee, but girls high school sounds like the safest bet. We had a horrifying incident occur locally a couple of weeks back, when a life-long ref working a semi-pro football game got his face smashed in with a helmet, after the game. He’s lucky to have lived, but he is facing reconstructive surgery along the lines of what Rudy Tomjanovich had to go through, after Kermit Washington smashed his skull in, back in the 70’s.
Alex, I agree about Devendorf and Harris…it’s sad, because I knew that neither of those guys were ready yet. Johnny Flynn, on the other hand, has made the kind of transition that I suspected he would. I think this Orange team has great potential…they looked really good against Robert Morris, but young teams are bound to hit some bumps (ie: LeMoyne). We shall see…
Alex, when I was a kid there were 8 teams in the NL and I believe 7 in the American. We would play stickball and announce the entire line-up with their batting average, HRs & RBIs. We would announce the pitcher with his W-L record and ERA. If the guy batted lefty we batted lefty. I have been a Giants baseball fan since Bobby Thompsons shot heard round the world, When MLB announce the ROYs this week I never heard of either of them. I have a baseball signed by Thompson & Ralph Branca. Branca was from Mt. Vernon a great basketball town, Ben Gordon, Ray & Gus Williams and Rudy Hackett from the Cuse. . Saw Mt Vernon beat Niagara Falls with Johnny Flynn at Glens Falls. If you like basketball the NYSPHSAA state championships at Glens Falls is a must. I have been going every year for about 20 years. If you do go let me know and I will meet you David you should come and bring your son. He would love it.
David,
Syracuse generally played so well that I was ALMOST a little bored! Great win. And, Joe, your Mookie Jones shot well . . . until he got a little carried away and fired up a few bricks. But he looked good for his first several shots. Boeheim’s coaching will help with shot selection, so he looks promising.
Got to get used to all these new faces on the SU team.
Have you guys seen that violent soccer gal that they’ve been replaying for about a week? Wow. A thug is a thug, I guess.
I hear she scheduled a WWF Death Match with Bart Scott and he backed out.
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David,
Wow! There is a lot to LIKE about this team, and I’m not talking about the Jests.
Alex,
These last two nights were friggin’ incredible. What a team!! It’s a long season, but for two games, I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a better Syracuse team. They have balance, poise and the length to make those Boeheim zones work to absolute perfection. I had no idea Wesley Jones was going to be this good…talk about hiding a secret weapon.
As for the Jets…well, maybe I’ll be motivated to say something about them tomorrow.
David. It’s Wesley Johnson and unfortunately he will probably only be there one year. He has already played 2 years at Ipwa State and also sat a year for transferring after his sophomore year.
You are absolutely right, Joe…ha ha, I swear I knew that, but they have too much Jones and Johnson going on with that club.
I agree he will probably be one and done, but such is the nature of college basketball these days. The Orange have a lot of talent and another good recruiting class shaping up, so hopefully it will be able to reload, but at the end of the day it’s that intangible team chemistry that matters most. More heralded teams have accomplished less than a lot of less heralded teams, when you look through their history. I have a hunch this team has the potential to be special, if they keep their bearings.