Comments on: A matter of timing http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/13/a-matter-of-timing/ Jane McManus of The Journal News on the Jets. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:51:56 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: joe b http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/13/a-matter-of-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-10453 joe b Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:49:14 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/?p=1773#comment-10453 Which post. I didn't mention any names anytime. Which post. I didn’t mention any names anytime.

]]> By: burf http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/13/a-matter-of-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-10424 burf Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:13:24 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/?p=1773#comment-10424 Joe - - He's not the only player I think the Jets should move-on from... I was simply responding to your posts. We'll disagree, and see how it plays out. Have a good one... Joe – - He’s not the only player I think the Jets should move-on from… I was simply responding to your posts.
We’ll disagree, and see how it plays out.
Have a good one…

]]> By: joe b http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/13/a-matter-of-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-10421 joe b Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:43:48 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/?p=1773#comment-10421 @ burf...What are you a talent evaluater. I did state my case. You were the one who said his play tailed off in the 2nd half of the season, Look at his numbers. Nobody on the team was even close to his numbers in the second half of the season. And he was the only player you thought they should get rid of. WHY ? State your reason why. @ burf…What are you a talent evaluater. I did state my case. You were the one who said his play tailed off in the 2nd half of the season, Look at his numbers. Nobody on the team was even close to his numbers in the second half of the season. And he was the only player you thought they should get rid of. WHY ? State your reason why.

]]> By: burf http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/13/a-matter-of-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-10417 burf Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:50:47 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/?p=1773#comment-10417 @joe b - - Defensive lil guy, aren't ya? Stats aren't everything. Barton's play tailed substantially, over the 2nd half of the season. Next time, you might try actually stating your case, rather than getting defensive & personal. We all have opinions. @joe b – - Defensive lil guy, aren’t ya?
Stats aren’t everything. Barton’s play tailed substantially, over the 2nd half of the season.
Next time, you might try actually stating your case, rather than getting defensive & personal. We all have opinions.

]]> By: joe b http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/13/a-matter-of-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-10403 joe b Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:04:50 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/?p=1773#comment-10403 burf...@joe b – - Firstly, Barton’s a free agent looking for, probably, his final big payday. He played well at the start of the season, but over the last two months really tapered off................ I guess you really didn't watch too many games late in the season. Because Barton had 81 of his 119 tackles in the last 8 games, including 65 solo. He was the 14th ranked player in the NFL. He had more total & solo tackles than Ray Lewis. Next time, do some research before you stick your foot in your mouth burf…@joe b – – Firstly, Barton’s a free agent looking for, probably, his final big payday. He played well at the start of the season, but over the last two months really tapered off…............. I guess you really didn’t watch too many games late in the season. Because Barton had 81 of his 119 tackles in the last 8 games, including 65 solo. He was the 14th ranked player in the NFL. He had more total & solo tackles than Ray Lewis. Next time, do some research before you stick your foot in your mouth

]]> By: burf http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/13/a-matter-of-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-10401 burf Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:23:15 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/?p=1773#comment-10401 @joe b - - Firstly, Barton's a free agent looking for, probably, his final big payday. He played well at the start of the season, but over the last two months really tapered off. I just don't see him coming back/ us re-signing him... obviously, I could be wrong. @Erik Sec.309 - - I think your take is a typical fans take, but not reality. The Jets played hard for Mangini, as do most players in general, around the league. If only for all the competition, just to keep their jobs. For the Jets, to me, there were no on-field leaders on D, that could stand up & rally the team, when it was on its heels. Despite what most fans believe, it's the players on the field that win games. People used to say that Edwards was a great motivator, but all he motivated them to do, was play his philosophy - - fearball, playing not to lose. Jane, I think Jenkins was as close to leader as we had on D, but he too, seems to be a relatively quiet, thoughtful guy. Not that that's bad, but I think you need a mix of personalities, to compliment one another. We need a few Brian Cox types, to get in other players faces, when it's needed on the field. I think with this group of players, an emotional guy like Ryan, can provide that extra bit of emotion they lacked with Mangini. I wish the fans would revolt against bringing Schott back, since all reports seem to be that he'll be coming back in some form. Beyond his first two drives - - his scripts - - he never seems to have a coherent plan. I rarely saw him call plays that would set up subsequent plays. It was like he picked plays from a hat. And he never figured out how to use Leon, Brad Smith, Keller, Chris Baker, Stuckey, etc. The only thing I'll give Schott, is that this past season, he had to change his offense to incorporate Favre. But, I never was impressed with his playcalling, from day 1. @joe b – - Firstly, Barton’s a free agent looking for, probably, his final big payday. He played well at the start of the season, but over the last two months really tapered off. I just don’t see him coming back/ us re-signing him… obviously, I could be wrong.
@Erik Sec.309 – - I think your take is a typical fans take, but not reality. The Jets played hard for Mangini, as do most players in general, around the league. If only for all the competition, just to keep their jobs. For the Jets, to me, there were no on-field leaders on D, that could stand up & rally the team, when it was on its heels. Despite what most fans believe, it’s the players on the field that win games. People used to say that Edwards was a great motivator, but all he motivated them to do, was play his philosophy – - fearball, playing not to lose.

Jane, I think Jenkins was as close to leader as we had on D, but he too, seems to be a relatively quiet, thoughtful guy. Not that that’s bad, but I think you need a mix of personalities, to compliment one another.
We need a few Brian Cox types, to get in other players faces, when it’s needed on the field. I think with this group of players, an emotional guy like Ryan, can provide that extra bit of emotion they lacked with Mangini.

I wish the fans would revolt against bringing Schott back, since all reports seem to be that he’ll be coming back in some form. Beyond his first two drives – - his scripts – - he never seems to have a coherent plan. I rarely saw him call plays that would set up subsequent plays. It was like he picked plays from a hat. And he never figured out how to use Leon, Brad Smith, Keller, Chris Baker, Stuckey, etc.
The only thing I’ll give Schott, is that this past season, he had to change his offense to incorporate Favre. But, I never was impressed with his playcalling, from day 1.

]]> By: matt frm manhattan http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/13/a-matter-of-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-10399 matt frm manhattan Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:42:50 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/?p=1773#comment-10399 Jane - great job. Back off on Lowery - he is definitely not a bust. He showed a lot of potential and ideally he'd settle in as a quality nickel offering some depth at cb, one of the weaker positions after revis. i think schott as HC is a total joke, but if he stays as OC we all need to be quiet and live with it. Mangini may be a god coach someday, but he learned on our dime. hopefully we can benefit from schoot's learning curve too Jane – great job.

Back off on Lowery – he is definitely not a bust. He showed a lot of potential and ideally he’d settle in as a quality nickel offering some depth at cb, one of the weaker positions after revis.

i think schott as HC is a total joke, but if he stays as OC we all need to be quiet and live with it. Mangini may be a god coach someday, but he learned on our dime. hopefully we can benefit from schoot’s learning curve too

]]> By: Erik Sec.309 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/13/a-matter-of-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-10398 Erik Sec.309 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:09:49 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/?p=1773#comment-10398 Coaches do need to motivate players.....The day of the motivated millionaire is long gone. These young men have had everything handed to them their whole lives. They expect a lot. In my opinion, most of them do not know what it means to work truly hard on a daily basis. Most of them are motivated soley by money.......Not that many players are far off from Manny Ramirez. Coaches do need to motivate players…..The day of the motivated millionaire is long gone. These young men have had everything handed to them their whole lives. They expect a lot. In my opinion, most of them do not know what it means to work truly hard on a daily basis. Most of them are motivated soley by money…....Not that many players are far off from Manny Ramirez.

]]> By: bob http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/13/a-matter-of-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-10397 bob Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:26:58 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/?p=1773#comment-10397 I would ditch lowery - he's a bust. I would ditch lowery – he’s a bust.

]]> By: joe b http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/13/a-matter-of-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-10396 joe b Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:39:33 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/?p=1773#comment-10396 burf..Why would you replace Barton. Check his numbers tks/solo/asst Eric Barton 119 93 26 Calvin Pace 80 62 18 Kerry Rhodes 84 60 24 Dwight Lowery 64 54 10 burf..Why would you replace Barton. Check his numbers tks/solo/asst
Eric Barton 119 93 26
Calvin Pace 80 62 18
Kerry Rhodes 84 60 24
Dwight Lowery 64 54 10

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