Comments on: Mr. Jones http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/ Jane McManus of The Journal News on the Jets. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:51:35 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Andrew Gross http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/comment-page-1/#comment-3524 Andrew Gross Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:58:32 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/#comment-3524 The only reason I made a point of detailing Jones' age is that, typically, NFL running backs are the down side of their career by 31 or 32. Obviously, there are exceptions but the norm would be for Jones' ability to be a workhorse, featured back to diminish rapidly once he gets to 32 or so. Which still gives the Jets about three seasons, which is a very good thing. The only reason I made a point of detailing Jones’ age is that, typically, NFL running backs are the down side of their career by 31 or 32. Obviously, there are exceptions but the norm would be for Jones’ ability to be a workhorse, featured back to diminish rapidly once he gets to 32 or so. Which still gives the Jets about three seasons, which is a very good thing.

]]> By: Mark http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/comment-page-1/#comment-3522 Mark Tue, 06 Mar 2007 14:46:54 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/#comment-3522 I know I complained about Jones' age, but there is an upside: he doesn't have as much mileage as your everyday 25+ carry, 28 year old RB. So hopefully, yes, he does give us 4 good years. And hopefully, he does mentor Washington. Hopefully.... I know I complained about Jones’ age, but there is an upside: he doesn’t have as much mileage as your everyday 25+ carry, 28 year old RB. So hopefully, yes, he does give us 4 good years. And hopefully, he does mentor Washington. Hopefully….

]]> By: MikeM http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/comment-page-1/#comment-3521 MikeM Tue, 06 Mar 2007 14:45:33 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/#comment-3521 I fat fingered the content of my earlier post, but I think you get the point. I fat fingered the content of my earlier post, but I think you get the point.

]]> By: Mark http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/comment-page-1/#comment-3520 Mark Tue, 06 Mar 2007 14:44:21 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/#comment-3520 I wouldn't mind Blalock. Along with Brick and Mangold, he'd solidify the line for the next 10 years. I think defense is more important though right now. I'd like to see them grab a pass rusher with the first pick (now that RB is taken care of). I wouldn’t mind Blalock. Along with Brick and Mangold, he’d solidify the line for the next 10 years.

I think defense is more important though right now. I’d like to see them grab a pass rusher with the first pick (now that RB is taken care of).

]]> By: MikeM http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/comment-page-1/#comment-3519 MikeM Tue, 06 Mar 2007 14:43:17 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/#comment-3519 Andrew, After reading all of the news items and blogs related to the Jones trade, I've seen that there has been a big deal made about him being 29 by the time the 2007 season starts. So I went an looked up Curtis Martin's statistics from Age 28 on, and I think its interesting to note there size similarities, and then note CM's production from Age 28 forward, as well as the the sheer numbers of carries he already had by that time, and relate this to the fact that TJ has had so few carries at the same age. http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1132 Just Curtis Martin Size 5-11, 210 # of carries by age 28 = 2043 # of 1000 yard seasons after age 28 = 3 Thomas Jones Size 5-10, 220 TJ # of carries by age 28 = 768 I am by no means putting TJ in CM's category, my point is that we may just be getting a running back who is just hitting his prime, and who may be able to give us 4 great years. I'd be interested in your thoughts as well as the rest of the blog contributors... Andrew,

After reading all of the news items and blogs related to the Jones trade, I’ve seen that there has been a big deal made about him being 29 by the time the 2007 season starts.

So I went an looked up Curtis Martin’s statistics from Age 28 on, and I think its interesting to note there size similarities, and then note CM’s production from Age 28 forward, as well as the the sheer numbers of carries he already had by that time, and relate this to the fact that TJ has had so few carries at the same age.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1132

Just
Curtis Martin
Size 5-11, 210

  1. of carries by age 28 = 2043
  1. of 1000 yard seasons after age 28 = 3

    Thomas Jones
    Size 5-10, 220
    TJ # of carries by age 28 = 768

    I am by no means putting TJ in CM’s category, my point is that we may just be getting a running back who is just hitting his prime, and who may be able to give us 4 great years.

    I’d be interested in your thoughts as well as the rest of the blog contributors…

]]> By: Richard http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/comment-page-1/#comment-3518 Richard Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:55:27 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/#comment-3518 Jets will go OL or DE with their first pick IMO. Lots of mocks have them selecting Justin Blalock. Jones is indeed late 20's, but he wasnt used as a work horse as some of the other backs have been. Also, he fits into the Mangini mold as someone dedicated and smart. Apparently hes usually the first one in to arrive at the complex in the morning and the last one to leave at night. There's also reports that he told his agent to "get him to New York." Jets will go OL or DE with their first pick IMO. Lots of mocks have them selecting Justin Blalock. Jones is indeed late 20’s, but he wasnt used as a work horse as some of the other backs have been. Also, he fits into the Mangini mold as someone dedicated and smart. Apparently hes usually the first one in to arrive at the complex in the morning and the last one to leave at night. There’s also reports that he told his agent to “get him to New York.”

]]> By: Mark http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/comment-page-1/#comment-3517 Mark Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:18:31 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/#comment-3517 David: I have the same problem. I can't post from home, only from work. It stinks that they had to unload that 2nd round pick, but at least they got one back. Overall, I didn't like the trade at first because I thought Jones was older. I was relieved to hear he's only 28 going on 29 for the start of the season. Hopefully, he has 2-3 good years left in him and can mentor Leon Washington. Just worries me that we're going to be facing the same problem in 2 years when Jones is out of gas. I am guessing now the Jets go defense with their first pick? Either a lineman or CB? I just hope Michael Bush is not available with that first pick in the 2nd round that we gave Chicago. David: I have the same problem. I can’t post from home, only from work.

It stinks that they had to unload that 2nd round pick, but at least they got one back.

Overall, I didn’t like the trade at first because I thought Jones was older. I was relieved to hear he’s only 28 going on 29 for the start of the season. Hopefully, he has 2-3 good years left in him and can mentor Leon Washington. Just worries me that we’re going to be facing the same problem in 2 years when Jones is out of gas.

I am guessing now the Jets go defense with their first pick? Either a lineman or CB?

I just hope Michael Bush is not available with that first pick in the 2nd round that we gave Chicago.

]]> By: David http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/comment-page-1/#comment-3516 David Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:13:56 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/#comment-3516 Looks like I'm reduce to chiming in from work, until I figure out how to break back through from home... Personally, I think this trade is a steal for the Jets. They've proven they can find value at any round, so I don't think falling back 26 slots is much to give for a player of this caliber. It's great they were able to get him without giving up a complete draft pick. Looks like I’m reduce to chiming in from work, until I figure out how to break back through from home…

Personally, I think this trade is a steal for the Jets. They’ve proven they can find value at any round, so I don’t think falling back 26 slots is much to give for a player of this caliber. It’s great they were able to get him without giving up a complete draft pick.

]]> By: Wesley http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/comment-page-1/#comment-3510 Wesley Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:08:18 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/#comment-3510 T Jones vs Benson was much more about Benson. All his teammates hated him, and loved Jones. Tangini considers chemistry very carefully. Even a previously-known malcontent like Barlow was on his best behavior here. T Jones vs Benson was much more about Benson. All his teammates hated him, and loved Jones.

Tangini considers chemistry very carefully. Even a previously-known malcontent like Barlow was on his best behavior here.

]]> By: Richard http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/comment-page-1/#comment-3507 Richard Tue, 06 Mar 2007 03:43:46 +0000 http://jets.lohudblogs.com/2007/03/05/mr-jones/#comment-3507 This is a great trade for the Jets. Its amazing what a smart front office can do. Team Tangini took a seemingly ordinary low 2006 2nd round pick and turned that one pick into a QB of the future in Kellen Clemens, a solid and proven RB in Tom Jones, and a late 2007 2nd round pick. Now thats mazimizing your draft picks if you ask me. This is a great trade for the Jets. Its amazing what a smart front office can do. Team Tangini took a seemingly ordinary low 2006 2nd round pick and turned that one pick into a QB of the future in Kellen Clemens, a solid and proven RB in Tom Jones, and a late 2007 2nd round pick.

Now thats mazimizing your draft picks if you ask me.

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